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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 2:15 pm
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I'm on a flight that lands in FRA at 11:15am with a 2 hour layover (international, all on LH), which *A lounge would have the least crowds? I'd like to take a shower and it seems a little tight.
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Old Dec 25, 2017, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by erics2356
I'm on a flight that lands in FRA at 11:15am with a 2 hour layover (international, all on LH), which *A lounge would have the least crowds? I'd like to take a shower and it seems a little tight.
Depends on the specific flights (and therefore gates). Walking time to a further lounge (even if less busy) can easily eat up all available time.
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Old Dec 25, 2017, 1:16 pm
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Arrival at Schengen A - Connecting to LH / Deutsche Bahn Train

Just an observation I made last time I transited FRA = which is not in sync with the golden "Follow the Signs" rule... - although that would bring you there eventually as well - of course.
Arriving in A with a Schengen flight - hand luggage only (or luggage checked "through" to QKL or other train stations). How to get to the train station?
Signs within the A terminal only show other terminals or baggage claim - which would lead you downstairs to the actual baggage claim - which you don't need and would take a lot more time.
Fastest way is just follow the C Terminal signs and then keeping left - this brings you landside in terminal A on the departure level and then you can follow the train station signs.

Hope this didn't confuse more than it helps...

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Old Dec 25, 2017, 9:49 pm
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It's been a while since I transited at FRA and I have a very tight connection... flying on Jan 1 (quiet or chaotic?)..
My flight is LHR-FRA-ARN with connection time of only 45min!

Scheduled arrival of 15.05 and departure of 15.50. Checking today's flights, arrival was at B25A (non-schengen) and departure at A24 (schengen).

I understand there is a tunnel between B and A, but is it possible to use this with my non-schengen to schengen connection? I have an EU passport.

Any tips for this speedy transit?
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Old Dec 26, 2017, 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by vd0t
It's been a while since I transited at FRA and I have a very tight connection... flying on Jan 1 (quiet or chaotic?)..
My flight is LHR-FRA-ARN with connection time of only 45min!

Scheduled arrival of 15.05 and departure of 15.50. Checking today's flights, arrival was at B25A (non-schengen) and departure at A24 (schengen).

I understand there is a tunnel between B and A, but is it possible to use this with my non-schengen to schengen connection? I have an EU passport.

Any tips for this speedy transit?
The passport control between the Schengen and non-Schengen parts of pier B only allow airside passage in one direction (from Schengen to non-Schengen). So you wouldn't be able to go from B non-schengen to the airside Schengen side (and access the tunnel) that way.
I believe the fastest way to get to the A gates would be to take the skyline train from B non-Schengen to the Z gates and then go through passport control to access the A gates.
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Old Dec 26, 2017, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by DoTheBartMan
The passport control between the Schengen and non-Schengen parts of pier B only allow airside passage in one direction (from Schengen to non-Schengen). So you wouldn't be able to go from B non-schengen to the airside Schengen side (and access the tunnel) that way.
I believe the fastest way to get to the A gates would be to take the skyline train from B non-Schengen to the Z gates and then go through passport control to access the A gates.
Oh.. this sounds like a bit of a journey. Do you think it's doable in 45min?
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 9:09 pm
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Hi guys!
Tomorrow I am going to have SFO->FRA->DME flight and I'm kinda nervous.
estimated arrival time of first flight is 11:15, while boarding time for the second one is 11:50 and departure 12:20. Both flight are operated by lufthansa (and i bought both as single ticket).
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It seems like first flight is likely to be late o_O like today it was delayed for 2 hours. sometimes it is late for 20 minutes.

is there any possibility that both me and my luggage will be able to make it, given that arriving is to Z and departure from B and I don't have Schengen visa? and what is the most optimal route for me, taking a train?
it is going to be my first-ever connection in FRA..
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Old Dec 29, 2017, 10:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Everlann
Hi guys!
Tomorrow I am going to have SFO->FRA->DME flight and I'm kinda nervous.
estimated arrival time of first flight is 11:15, while boarding time for the second one is 11:50 and departure 12:20. Both flight are operated by lufthansa (and i bought both as single ticket).
BU
It seems like first flight is likely to be late o_O like today it was delayed for 2 hours. sometimes it is late for 20 minutes.

is there any possibility that both me and my luggage will be able to make it, given that arriving is to Z and departure from B and I don't have Schengen visa? and what is the most optimal route for me, taking a train?
it is going to be my first-ever connection in FRA..
Howdy! Let's break this into a few parts:

1. Visas: Are you a US passport holder? If yes, based on what you've noted above, you're going from non-Schengen to non-Schengen and, from my understanding (but happy to be corrected), won't need a visa to go through / may not even need to go through customs, since you are technically not entering the EU (and US citizens don't need a transit visa, or even a visa if visiting the EU as a tourist for 90 days or less).

2. Layover Time: There is no train from Z to B - everything is done on foot / via walking! You shouldn't have to pick up your luggage (it should be checked through to DME); all you have to do is hustle over to the gate. If your flight is delayed (e.g. the 2+ hour delay you saw in past days for this flight), then you'll unfortunately miss your connection - but Lufthansa should rebook you on the next available flight to DME at their expense.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 4:46 am
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2. Layover Time: There is no train from Z to B - everything is done on foot / via walking!
I've taken the train from Z to B many times.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by hardworking21
2. Layover Time: There is no train from Z to B - everything is done on foot / via walking! .
Of course there is a train. Even more, it’s the “official” way to connect from Z to B
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 12:39 pm
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​​​​Tomorrow I'm flying to LHR from JNB via FRA on lh573 and then lh 900.

I could be wrong, but I believe my first flight will be land at a Z gate, and the gate given for lh900 (which I know could change) is b 24.
I'm not worried about the connection time, I was just wondering how to get between the 2, because I believe the gates are on 2 different floors. Do I take the sky train, the tunnel or just walk, and where would I change floors, it's not clear on the terminal map

I know I've made a few assumptions, please let me know if I'm wrong and thanks for your help.

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Old Dec 31, 2017, 1:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Bob smith11
Hi
​​​​Tomorrow I'm flying to LHR from JNB via FRA on lh573 and then lh 900.

I could be wrong, but I believe my first flight will be land at a Z gate, and the gate given for lh900 (which I know could change) is b 24.
I'm not worried about the connection time, I was just wondering how to get between the 2, because I believe the gates are on 2 different floors. Do I take the sky train, the tunnel or just walk, and where would I change floors, it's not clear on the terminal map

I know I've made a few assumptions, please let me know if I'm wrong and thanks for your help.​​​
Z and B gates are not just on different floors but are in different parts of Terminal 1. From your arrival gate in Z, follow the signs for B which should take you to the Skyline train. Get off at the stop for B (first stop), follow the signs for B22-48 gates and go through security.

The map below does not show Z gates but they are immediately above A gates and share the same gate numbers. The Skyline stop for Z is marked by a blue circle A,Z and the stop for B is marked by an orange circle 1.
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Z and B gates are not just on different floors but are in different parts of Terminal 1. From your arrival gate in Z, follow the signs for B which should take you to the Skyline train. Get off at the stop for B (first stop), follow the signs for B22-48 gates and go through security.

The map below does not show Z gates but they are immediately above A gates and share the same gate numbers. The Skyline stop for Z is marked by a blue circle A,Z and the stop for B is marked by an orange circle 1.
Thanks for your help, would you know if I need to go through passport control at any point?
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 4:11 pm
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Not if you follow the signs for B gates. You will not enter Schengen and therefore no immigration/passport control is necessary.
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Bob smith11
Thanks for your help, would you know if I need to go through passport control at any point?
Not if you take the Skyline train between Z and B.
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