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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by rebech34
Arriving from IAH on LH 441 connecting in FRA to LH 686 (I think) an hour later. (T-1, land 9:05, depart to TLV 10:05).
If I miss the connection, the next LH flight is only 12 hours later.
If I do, is there a chance they will work with me and fly me to TLV with a different carrier rather then LH? Austrian/Swiss/Turkish?
I'm traveling on C class.

Thanks!
It's certainly a tight connection, but doable if things don't go wrong.
If you miss the connection LH will reroute you if it makes sense.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 6:39 pm
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Do they use thier *A partners in case of a delay? Is it a common practice?
In the past, I missed twice connections in FRA only then it was inbound (toward Houston) and they rerouted me to different LH flight to a different destination and from there connected me on another flight (rerouted me through Denver to Houston). This time, there's no direct option and the other options (1 stop) are doable (occupancy provided). Do they use the option of partner airlines if possible?
I have another possability to fly those two legs in F (for more miles of course). Will that give me a better chance?

Don't meen to hastle - I just really need to be there for a wedding in the evening....
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by rebech34
Do they use thier *A partners in case of a delay? Is it a common practice?
In the past, I missed twice connections in FRA only then it was inbound (toward Houston) and they rerouted me to different LH flight to a different destination and from there connected me on another flight (rerouted me through Denver to Houston). This time, there's no direct option and the other options (1 stop) are doable (occupancy provided). Do they use the option of partner airlines if possible?
I have another possability to fly those two legs in F (for more miles of course). Will that give me a better chance?

Don't meen to hastle - I just really need to be there for a wedding in the evening....
Yes, *A partners will be an option, but it largely depends on the attitude/helpfulness of the agent responsible and subject to availibility. Otherwise, it's the 12hrs later LH flight.
They'll tag your bag as "HOT" (yellow tag) in IAH and maybe you should request "meet and assist" by LH beforehand.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 9:24 pm
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What is meet and assist.

We have a 1:05 connection in FRA on Sat - with the next flight 24 hours later. I just figured if we miss we miss.

We are flying in F on an award if that has any impact here.
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Originally Posted by toyotaboy95
Yes, *A partners will be an option, but it largely depends on the attitude/helpfulness of the agent responsible and subject to availibility. Otherwise, it's the 12hrs later LH flight.
They'll tag your bag as "HOT" (yellow tag) in IAH and maybe you should request "meet and assist" by LH beforehand.
It just a roll of the dice.

In 3 years, I have had 2 tight/missed connections. LH screwed up both times, and was very unapologetic about it.

I hope you have better luck.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 12:56 am
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I fly LH 441 every other month, Last two (October and Early December) we were late out of Houston by more than an hour each time (4 hours in October) and they were unable to make the time up in flight. I am not trying to worry you, just stating the facts. You might need to be prepared for this!


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Old Dec 24, 2009, 2:02 am
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Originally Posted by jan_az
What is meet and assist.
Where agents meet the pax upon arrival and take them through the airport (priority security lane) to the departing gate. Some airlines provide this, especially my favourite CX and inconsistently LH.

My experience for tight connection at FRA and MUC (roughly 1h15m connection) was tagged "HOT" and one staff waiting at MUC, no FRA (note: I'm *G). The staff said to me when boarding "Thank you for flying Lufthansa Mr. Toyotaboy95".
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One hour is definitely a extremely tight connex for the TLV flight due to longer security procedures. As security for the TLV flights is largely managed/supervised by staff from Israel, it is their call wether they will take you or not. If you are in F LH might give you a direct limo transfer, however even in this case the non LH security staff might give a thumbs down.

If I were you I would work on an alternative through VIE,IST or ZRH before departure.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 9:23 pm
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40 Minute Connection in FRA

Hello FTers,

I realized I committed a cardinal sin for holding different tickets =(

I am flying DEL-FRA on the 13rd, arriving at 6:50AM...then to FCO on another ticket in a cheap bucket (E) at 7:30AM...

I'm wondering if this is even a "doable connection" I have a bad feeling about this, how nice is Lufthansa about their "flat tire rule" if Schengen Customs takes a while since we are arriving from India and my sister is heading back to the states on a 11am UA flight but have to guest her into a LH Lounge on my mad dash to the FCO Gate, can any FTers chime on this?
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 9:45 pm
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Depending on which gates you get you could easily spend 40 minutes just going from arrival to departure gate (immigration is very busy early in the morning, and some gates at FRA are a loooong way apart). No time for lounge, and you better hope the LH flight to FCO is delayed.
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I hope they do the dual boarding for the jetways at FRA on the 747-400 =)
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An international arrival and then connecting to Schengen with a 40 minutes connection time is pretty much stupid idea. If you arrive in B you have immigration lines and security check that is busy no matter what. So that takes time. Arriving in C you have the long walk over to the A gates. And still crazy security checks.

My advise is to get familiar with your arrival gate and try to figure out the departure gate. However both are changing all the time and you might just know this until an hour before arrival. Also hope that your flight arrives early.

And don't even bother with any lounge or anything. Try to get to your departure gates and if by luck you have some extra time, only then consider the lounge.
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Originally Posted by usa18dca
Hello FTers,

I realized I committed a cardinal sin for holding different tickets =(

I am flying DEL-FRA on the 13rd, arriving at 6:50AM...then to FCO on another ticket in a cheap bucket (E) at 7:30AM...

I'm wondering if this is even a "doable connection" I have a bad feeling about this, how nice is Lufthansa about their "flat tire rule" ...
Sorry to say but there is no flat tire rule as you hold two different tix - and even if it would be on one you are below the MCT (60 min) and thus on your own.

Cheers

Thomas
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40 minutes connection time in fra from Terminal B or C to A with immigration is very short, but there a lot of flights from FRA to FCO. Normaly LH sell's intercontinental connection flights with a minimum of 60min. connection time. But with 2 different tickets it's Your risk.
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