Beginners' guide to connecting at FRA [FRA connection thread]

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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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>dmlh/fra/lh DMLH/FRA/LH/23NOV16 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM LH BUS - --- --- --- 100 LH BR - --- --- 100 100 LH CA - --- --- 100 100 LH CN - --- --- 100 100 LH EG - --- --- 100 100 LH ET - --- --- 100 100 LH IN - --- --- 100 100 LH JP - --- --- 100 100 LH QA - --- --- 100 100 LH SG - --- --- 100 100 LH TH - --- --- 100 100 LH US - --- --- 100 100 LH ZA - --- --- 100 100 LH KJR - 100 100 --- --- LH KWQ - 100 100 --- --- LH QDU - 100 100 --- --- LH QKL - 100 100 --- --- LH QKU - 100 100 --- --- )>m LH ZWS - 100 100 --- --- LH KLT BUS - 100 100 --- --- LH SDA BUS - 100 100 --- --- LH 0400-0799 - --- --- 100 100 LH 7270-7329 - --- --- 100 100 LH 7330-7409 - --- --- --- 100 LH 7330-7409 BR - --- --- 100 --- LH 7270-7329 CN - --- --- 100 100 LH 5706-5769 PL - --- --- 100 --- LH 7330-7353 ZA - --- --- 045 045 LH - TRN 100 100 100 100 LH 5706-5769 PL - SC --- --- --- 100 LH - US --- 100 --- 100 LH - QKL --- --- 100 --- LH - ZWS --- --- 100 --- TRN -LH 100 100 100 100 LH BUS -LH 100 100 100 100 LH SC BUS -LH --- 100 --- 100 LH SC TRN -LH --- 100 --- 100 LH SC TRS -LH --- 100 --- 100 LH 7440-9415 US -LH --- --- 100 100 LH -LH BUS 100 100 100 100 )>m LH 6550-6849 -LH ICE --- --- 200 200 LH 6550-6849 -LH TRN --- --- 200 200 LH XER BUS -LH SC --- --- --- 100 LH -LH SC BUS --- --- 100 100 LH -LH SC TRN --- --- 100 100 LH -LH SC TRS --- --- 100 100 -LH BR --- 100 --- 100 -LH CA --- 100 --- 100 -LH CN --- 100 --- 100 -LH EG --- 100 --- 100 -LH ET --- 100 --- 100 -LH IN --- 100 --- 100 -LH JP --- 100 --- 100 -LH QA --- 100 --- 100 -LH SG --- 100 --- 100 -LH TH --- 100 --- 100 -LH US --- 100 --- 100 -LH ZA --- 100 --- 100 -LH KJR 100 --- 100 --- -LH KWQ 100 --- 100 --- -LH QDU 100 --- 100 --- -LH QKL 100 --- 100 --- )>m -LH QKU 100 --- 100 --- -LH TLV --- 100 --- 100 -LH ZWS 100 --- 100 --- LH -LH TLV --- --- --- 100 -LH KLT BUS 100 --- 100 --- -LH SDA BUS 100 --- 100 --- -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 -LH 6550-6849 --- --- --- 100 -LH 7252-7269 --- 115 --- 115 -LH 7330-7409 --- --- --- 100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 --- 115 --- 115 LH -LH 7440-9415 --- 100 --- 100 LH BUS -LH 6550-6849 --- --- --- 200 LH ICE -LH 6550-6849 --- 200 --- 200 LH TRN -LH 6550-6849 --- 200 --- 200 LH TRN -LH 7440-9415 --- 130 --- --- LH 6550-6849 -LH 6850-6901 --- --- --- 200 LH 0001-3799 BUS -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 0001-3799 ICE -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 0001-3799 TRN -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 0001-3799 TRS -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 6850-6901 LUX -LH 6550-6849 --- --- --- 200 )>m LH 6550-6849 LUX -LH 6850-6901 --- --- --- 200 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS --- --- 100 100 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 ICE --- --- 100 100 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN --- --- 100 100 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS --- --- 100 100 1-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 100 2-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 130 SC 1-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 045 SC 2-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 100 BR -LH 6032-6280 SC 1 --- --- --- 150 EZE -LH 6032-6280 SC 1 --- --- --- 200 -LH 7330-7409 BR --- 100 --- --- -LH 5706-5769 PL --- 100 --- --- SC -LH 5706-5769 PL --- --- --- 100 LH -LH 7440-9415 US --- 100 --- 100 LH TRN -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH QDU -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH QKL -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH ZWS -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH 6550-6849 -LH 6320-6479 AT --- --- --- 100 LH 0001-3799 SC -LH 0400-0799 SG --- 045 --- 045 LH 0001-3799 SC -LH 0400-0799 US --- 045 --- 045 )>m LH 0001-3799 SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA --- 045 --- 045 LH 0001-3799 SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US --- 100 --- --- LH 0443 -LH 0126 --- --- 050 --- LH 0463 -LH 0270 --- --- --- 055 LH 0741 -LH 0274 --- --- --- 055 LH 0419 -LH 0324 --- --- --- 055 LH 0491 -LH 0392 --- --- --- 050 LH 0691 -LH 0440 --- --- --- 050 LH 0949 -LH 0456 --- --- --- 050 LH 1335 -LH 0470 --- --- --- 055 LH 1235 -LH 0498 --- --- --- 050 LH 1133 -LH 0506 --- --- --- 055 LH 1235 -LH 0542 --- --- --- 045 LH 1219 -LH 0578 --- --- --- 055 LH 0055 -LH 0634 --- 055 --- --- LH 1187 -LH 0634 --- --- --- 055 LH 1339 -LH 0720 --- --- --- 055 LH 0489 -LH 0756 --- --- --- 045 LH 0999 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 050 LH 1099 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 055 LH 0465 -LH 0816 --- --- --- 050 LH 0463 -LH 0836 --- --- --- 055 )>m LH 0999 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 050 LH 1099 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 055 LH 0465 -LH 0816 --- --- --- 050 LH 0463 -LH 0836 --- --- --- 055 LH 0569 -LH 0926 --- --- --- 050 LH 0491 -LH 1444 --- --- --- 045 LH 0489 -LH 1446 --- --- --- 050 LH 0491 -LH 1490 --- --- --- 055 FRA-ZRB FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM - --- --- 400 --- ZRB-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM - --- 400 --- --- ZRB-ZRB FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM - --- 100 100 --- CK ALSO STANDARD CONNECTING TIMES PRECLEARANCE MAY APPLY >
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Old Feb 12, 19, 12:00 am
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Originally Posted by jamey826 View Post
I have a tight but legal connection coming up. Flying SQ25 Suites JFK-FRA on an award ticket. Unfortunately, the LH connection to Geneva didn’t have award seats so we had to purchase that ticket. So different tickets (I know we aren’t protected). SQ lands at FRA at 9:50 and the flight to GVA departs at 11:35 and we will thru check our luggage to GVA. Looks like the fight to GVA (CRJ-900) has been leaving from gates 50-60 the past several days. This will be my 3rd time connecting at FRA, so not my first time but not an expert yet either.

Thanks for any advice.
Did this last week.
Go through passport control and right away COME BACK through B security. Do not go to the main hall and try A.
If you have access to priority security, B seems to be always empty. They've been very thorough recently,
have an annoying shoe system (let you keep the shoes and pass through and THEN have your shoes pass again, weird)
but it's much faster than anything A.
After B security take the tunnel to A. Took me less than 1/2 hour from stepping off the Singapore plane to the A lounge.
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Old Feb 16, 19, 1:47 am
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I am flying TLS-FRA-SOF tomorrow in business. Flight arrives at 09.10 and the SOF flight departs 10.00, gate closes at 09.30. Is this doable?
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Old Feb 16, 19, 2:37 am
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I am flying TLS-FRA-SOF tomorrow in business. Flight arrives at 09.10 and the SOF flight departs 10.00, gate closes at 09.30. Is this doable?
Are you on one ticket?
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Old Feb 16, 19, 2:57 am
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Originally Posted by mik100 View Post
I am flying TLS-FRA-SOF tomorrow in business. Flight arrives at 09.10 and the SOF flight departs 10.00, gate closes at 09.30. Is this doable?
According to LH’s flight status website your flight from TLS is expected to arrive at gate A38 and the flight to SOF is expected to depart from gate B28. There may be slight changes but from your arrival gate in A following the signs for B should take you to the elevators between gates A15 and A17 down to the transfer tunnel. At the end of the tunnel go up another elevator and through passport control into B non-Schengen. If you have an EU passport you should be able go through an e-pass gate.

Boarding usually starts 30 minutes before departure, i.e. at 09:30. Gate does not close at 09:30! As long as your flight from TLS is not very late you should be fine especially since you will be in business and can deplane before other passengers. I did a similarly tight connection last September (from A23 which is a little closer to the elevators in A to B47 which is about the same distance as B28 from passport control in B) in just 12 minutes by walking very fast.
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Thanks for that. I will get my running shoes on.
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PRG-FRA on LH
FRA-YYZ on AC
I will go from A (Prague arrival) to B (Departure for Canada)
Do I need to clear security between A and B?
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No, just head for the transfer tunnel between gates A15/17 , just passport control once you enter B.

How does this square with info from demue, post 5040, ref MXP-FRA-USA (final destination not given):
You will be going from Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone so definitely Passport Control and Security Check. IME, for US bound flights security is always "extra special" (tight) with additional screening etc. 1:15hr is permitted MCT, but not generous for FRA. As it is on one ticket you are protected though.
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Originally Posted by spainflyer View Post
[/left]PRG-FRA on LH
FRA-YYZ on AC
I will go from A (Prague arrival) to B (Departure for Canada)
Do I need to clear security between A and B?
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No, just head for the transfer tunnel between gates A15/17 , just passport control once you enter B.

How does this square with info from demue, post 5040, ref MXP-FRA-USA (final destination not given):
You will be going from Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone so definitely Passport Control and Security Check. IME, for US bound flights security is always "extra special" (tight) with additional screening etc. 1:15hr is permitted MCT, but not generous for FRA. As it is on one ticket you are protected though.
There is no special/additional security check for departures to Canada. So you just go down to the tunnel and through passport control into B non-Schengen at the end of the tunnel.
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Thanks, NewbieRunner -
I'll be connecting MXP - FRA - SIN. So just one passport check and no security screening?
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Originally Posted by spainflyer View Post
Thanks, NewbieRunner -
I'll be connecting MXP - FRA - SIN. So just one passport check and no security screening?
Which airline to SIN?

If you arrive in A there is normally only passport control on the way to the departure gate for your non-Schengen flight.
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On SQ, with a Schengen passport. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by spainflyer View Post
On SQ, with a Schengen passport. Thanks!
I asked because SQ like AC use B gates while LH flights to SIN usually leave from Z. So it will be through the tunnel to B.
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Great! Thanks! Sounds relatively simple (for FRA).
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Moving T1-Z to T2-D

Flying into FRA tomorrow from the US. Arriving T1-Z on UA. Hopefully not for a bus gate arrival, fingers crossed (only had 1/20 bus arrival on UA).

Normally I’m doing the easy transfer to *A schengen in T1A...but this time I have a separate ticket on a Finnnair flight out of T2D. I’ve never actually been to FRA T2 in all my years.

it seems on arrival I clear customs (I have the biometric registration for the fast lanes) and board the Skyline airtrain. Seems easy enough, just never done it.

part that is unclear...can I board airside (and schengen -side)...and then exit the skyline in T2D still airside (secure) and in schengen and go straight to the gate? Or is there any extra security still just from boarding the train?

ive got 1:30 to connect, assuming arrival is on-time.

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Originally Posted by YouFlyBoysCrackMeUp View Post
Flying into FRA tomorrow from the US. Arriving T1-Z on UA. Hopefully not for a bus gate arrival, fingers crossed (only had 1/20 bus arrival on UA).

Normally I’m doing the easy transfer to *A schengen in T1A...but this time I have a separate ticket on a Finnnair flight out of T2D. I’ve never actually been to FRA T2 in all my years.

it seems on arrival I clear customs (I have the biometric registration for the fast lanes) and board the Skyline airtrain. Seems easy enough, just never done it.

part that is unclear...can I board airside (and schengen -side)...and then exit the skyline in T2D still airside (secure) and in schengen and go straight to the gate? Or is there any extra security still just from boarding the train?

ive got 1:30 to connect, assuming arrival is on-time.

thx
The Skyline is “unclean” whether you ride in the Schengen or non-Schengen carriage. Security in T2 is by the gate in any case. Directions on FRA Airport app suggest you go through passport control (I assume this is what you mean by ‘customs’) on arrival in T2 if you are flying to a Schengen destination.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner View Post
The Skyline is “unclean” whether you ride in the Schengen or non-Schengen carriage. Security in T2 is by the gate in any case. Directions on FRA Airport app suggest you go through passport control (I assume this is what you mean by ‘customs’) on arrival in T2 if you are flying to a Schengen destination.
In D Schengen it's single point security if I'm not mistaken.

In any case need to pass security.
One can go on a train from "Germany" or "Transit" side, but I don't see that much of a difference between passing immigration in T1 or T2.
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