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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
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 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
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 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
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 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by flymexico2010
We will be connecting from CDG via FRA to PTY. The layover is a little bit more then 1:10h coming on the 9:20am flight from CDG.

I see that a transfer from A gates to B6x gates is neccesary.
Is that enough time? Passport control is neccesary?

What if we miss our conection due to some delays to PTY? Would be LH willing to rebook us on MEX if that would be our final destination? (but PTY MEX booked on a separate ticket). Do they do these kind of rebookings?

Thanks for any advice.
If the flight to PTY departs from B6x (a bus gate) you can walk through the tunnel (follow the signs for B gates and down the elevator between gates A15 and A17). You will go through passport control at the end of the tunnel but no security.

70 minutes should be enough but if you miss the connection LH will only rebook you to PTY and not to MEX if PTY-MEX is on a separate ticket.
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 1:24 pm
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The bad thing is that PTY is not daily.A wait of 2 days would be neccesary.Even if the cdg fra flifht is delayed below mct in FRA they do not consider rebooking?
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by flymexico2010
The bad thing is that PTY is not daily.A wait of 2 days would be neccesary.Even if the cdg fra flifht is delayed below mct in FRA they do not consider rebooking?
I'm sure they will rebook to fly you to PTY (with connections as necessary) but they will not rebook you to MEX because that is not your destination.
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Old Jul 21, 2016, 3:43 am
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Hi I am trying to figure out what to expect for my upcomming connection next month at Frankfurt. I have read the guides etc but FRA seems a little more complex than HEL last year lol.

I will be arriving on LH927 from LCY - this seems to arrive at AEUW according to flight aware.
I will be connecting to NH204 to HND, which usually seems to depart from gate B42.

I have about 2 hours to connect here and would also want to grab something to eat on route.
What should I expect - will it be a long walk between gates, will I need to clear passport control, should I expect security?

Doubt it, but should I need to be concerned about time of my connection.

Your helps appreciated,

Thanks

Kev.
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Old Jul 21, 2016, 5:34 am
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Originally Posted by FlyKev
Hi I am trying to figure out what to expect for my upcomming connection next month at Frankfurt. I have read the guides etc but FRA seems a little more complex than HEL last year lol.

I will be arriving on LH927 from LCY - this seems to arrive at AEUW according to flight aware.
I will be connecting to NH204 to HND, which usually seems to depart from gate B42.

I have about 2 hours to connect here and would also want to grab something to eat on route.
What should I expect - will it be a long walk between gates, will I need to clear passport control, should I expect security?

Doubt it, but should I need to be concerned about time of my connection.

Your helps appreciated,

Thanks

Kev.
AEUW is a bus arrival gate at the bottom of the central area of Pier A which allows arriving passengers (mostly from the UK) to enter secure area of the terminal. It's convenient for passengers connecting from A or Z gates but not so convenient (though not much worse than arriving in B) for passengers connecting from B or C gates.

The only way to go from AEUW to B42 avoiding security that I know of is to go through passport control into A Schengen departure, go down the elevator between A15 and A17, walk through the tunnel and go through passport control into B non-Schengen departure at the end of the tunnel. Only feasible if you have a biometric passport which you can use to go through EasyPass gates.

Although I know where AEUW is I've never arrived there myself and I've been wondering if there is any arrangement for passengers connecting to a flight departing from a B gate. From AEUW you can go to Z departure area without going through security or passport control, but I'm not sure how you can get from there to B without having to re-clear security. As far as I know taking the Skyline train means clearing security once you are in B.

I have connected through FRA more times than I can remember but this is one connection I have not experienced. I would be interested to know how you transfer from AEUW to B42. Please report back!

Assuming you don't have lounge access, the Goethe Bar in the central area of T1B departure serves drinks and hot & cold dishes and is not very far from gate B42. There are also a McDonald's and a sushi/noodle bar on the floor above (close to T1B security).
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Old Jul 22, 2016, 9:07 pm
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As a side note, I've recently asked bmi regional if they can use the AEUW bus arrival gate for their flights from the UK. As most of their connecting passengers are going onto LH destinations either in Schengen or the USA/Asia, dropping them at A/Z makes a lot more sense, than in the bus dungeon of B. (Even the B6x bus arrival gate would be better than the dungeon).
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Old Jul 24, 2016, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolTraveller
As a side note, I've recently asked bmi regional if they can use the AEUW bus arrival gate for their flights from the UK. As most of their connecting passengers are going onto LH destinations either in Schengen or the USA/Asia, dropping them at A/Z makes a lot more sense, than in the bus dungeon of B. (Even the B6x bus arrival gate would be better than the dungeon).
And what was the answer?

Fortunately I haven't arrived at a B bus gate (from MAN) for quite some time. Arrival gates have been either B, A bus arrival, lower C and once or twice Z. ^ I'm not sure where B6x bus arrival gates are. Are they separate from other B bus arrival gates?
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Old Jul 24, 2016, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Flights from BSL usually arrive at A bus gates. If the flight arrives on time or less than 15-20 minutes late you should be able to make the connection by walking through the tunnel and clearing passport control at the end.
Thank you NewbieRunner ! Finally, I decided to book flights out of LUX. Still a 55' layover in FRA, and hopefully a B Schengen Bus gate to avoid the tunnel ?

Way back, 1hr50. Do we have to re-clear security as we're coming from DUB (B Non-Sch.), and going to LUX ?

Thanks.
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Old Jul 24, 2016, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by jules67500
Thank you NewbieRunner ! Finally, I decided to book flights out of LUX. Still a 55' layover in FRA, and hopefully a B Schengen Bus gate to avoid the tunnel ?

Way back, 1hr50. Do we have to re-clear security as we're coming from DUB (B Non-Sch.), and going to LUX ?

Thanks.
According to LH.com LH395 seems to arrive at T1A bus arrivals on most days. In that case you will still have to walk through the tunnel to B.

On the way back you will have to clear security if you arrive at a B gate.
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Old Jul 24, 2016, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
And what was the answer?
It's still the same bmi, so I'll expect a reply from someone in a week or so, when they have a day off or something.

Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
I'm not sure where B6x bus arrival gates are. Are they separate from other B bus arrival gates?
Sorry, shorthand for that bus arrival gate that's next to B63, where UK flights have been landed in the past (as opposed to the dungeon around B54-59). Drops you into the sterile non-Schengen departures area of B, which is handy if you're connecting into a departing B flight. Otherwise you have to go out of the sterile area, through passport control to enter Schengen, and then wherever to next. Which in my case involves legging it through the tunnel to A/Z too often.
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Old Jul 26, 2016, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolTraveller
Sorry, shorthand for that bus arrival gate that's next to B63, where UK flights have been landed in the past (as opposed to the dungeon around B54-59). Drops you into the sterile non-Schengen departures area of B, which is handy if you're connecting into a departing B flight. Otherwise you have to go out of the sterile area, through passport control to enter Schengen, and then wherever to next. Which in my case involves legging it through the tunnel to A/Z too often.
A bus arrival gate next to B63 into the sterile area? It must be another one I'm yet to experience in addition to AEUW.

It's a long time since I was at B bus arrivals as most of my flights from MAN arrive at proper B gates (not so proper since you can't enter the sterile area), A bus arrival and occasionally a lower C gate or even Z.

I know where AEUW is and that it's convenient for departures from A/Z but it seems inconvenient if connecting from B, similar to arriving at B6x and connecting from A/Z.

Morning flights from MAN usually arrive at AEUW but where do I have to originate to experience B6x? Somewhere exotic like BRS?
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Old Aug 4, 2016, 5:36 am
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1, 2 or 3 hour layover at FRA? First time connecting - Intercontinental

Hey everyone,

I will be flying to South America and it is my first time connecting at FRA. My flight options offer me a one, two, or three hour layover at FRA. All flights have the exact same price.

Which one would you guys suggest? I have never been at FRA before. One hour definitely seems too short, but is 2 ideal? Or should I take 3 to play on the safe side? I have no idea what exactly I will need to do when transferring to my first intercontinental flight.

Will I have a lot of formalities at FRA? My departure airport is HAM.

Is there any benefit for a LH Frequent Traveler with regards to immigration? I once read that we should get a "priority passport check" but I can't find this anywhere anymore.
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Old Aug 4, 2016, 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by Nominal
Hey everyone,

I will be flying to South America and it is my first time connecting at FRA. My flight options offer me a one, two, or three hour layover at FRA. All flights have the exact same price.

Which one would you guys suggest? I have never been at FRA before. One hour definitely seems too short, but is 2 ideal? Or should I take 3 to play on the safe side? I have no idea what exactly I will need to do when transferring to my first intercontinental flight.

Will I have a lot of formalities at FRA? My departure airport is HAM.

Is there any benefit for a LH Frequent Traveler with regards to immigration? I once read that we should get a "priority passport check" but I can't find this anywhere anymore.
I am not aware of any priority immigration services offered by LH outside of the FCT.

One hour sounds a bit tight (that means boarding starts less than 30 minutes from your scheduled arrival), three hours might get boring unless you like hanging around in airports.

If you are the conservative type, I would plan for a two hour connection in case of arrival, transfer or immigration delays.

I am not sure from where flights to S. America generally depart, but if Terminal 1C, you may also have a transfer security check to deal with, and even a walk over to B takes a little time. International departures from A (Z Gates) is convenient, but there will still be unknown processing time for passport control leaving Schengen that can vary from 30 seconds to 20 minutes (average, in my recent experience, about 5 mins, less if you have an EU passport and can use the automated gates). Arriving from HAM, you will almost assuredly arrive at A.

As FTL you will of course have access to the Business Lounges at FRA, which will allow for something to drink and a snack, and/or a newspaper to read before boarding, if everything during the transfer goes as scheduled.
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Old Aug 4, 2016, 12:16 pm
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Quick question about our LH flights tomorrow: we are flying MAN-FRA-BLQ with a 1:05 layover in FRA. I rang LH at the time of booking to check this was long enough and was advised that there would be no need to clear security so it was plenty. Have just stumbled upon this thread and am wondering if I've been given duff information!

Looks like I'll be landing at a B gate and leaving for Bologna from an A gate. How long is this likely to take me? Is an hour enough??
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Old Aug 4, 2016, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by the_etk
Quick question about our LH flights tomorrow: we are flying MAN-FRA-BLQ with a 1:05 layover in FRA. I rang LH at the time of booking to check this was long enough and was advised that there would be no need to clear security so it was plenty. Have just stumbled upon this thread and am wondering if I've been given duff information!

Looks like I'll be landing at a B gate and leaving for Bologna from an A gate. How long is this likely to take me? Is an hour enough??
If you are on LH941 it looks like you will arrive at a B gate and need to clear security as well as passport control. If your flight arrives on time you should be able to make the connection. Should you miss your connection they will put you on the next available flight to BLQ.
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