Maximising my first experience, lounge/flight timings, FRA-ZRH-JFK
#16
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In the past, I have done 30 minutes before departure arrivals in FMO, MUC and LHR lately. Flying LH and your SEN status allows you to stretch the rules a little bit. Also the fact that they automatically check you in helps a bit.
The missing piece in LHR is the priority security lane, but it seems when moving to terminal 1, then this gets implemented.
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If I had to choose between a rather short and easy nonstop hop LON-NYC in C (or even in Premium Economy) and a LHR-FRA-ZRH-JFK ordeal in C / F, I'd always opt for the former.
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If you start your trip in LON, you'll maximise your trip experience (in any service class) by flying directly to ZRH and then to JFK. Flying via FRA is a waste of time and money (additonal taxes & YQ) and also quite an ordeal due to the long ways between gates and lounges and terminals.
1 - Will be spending a day or two in FRA first
2 - Hate paying Gordon Brown his UK APD (Think it will be Ł160 pp by December for F) - I'd rather spend that money (plus a bit more...) in FRA
3 - For this flight I'm intending to try out some different combinations of flights that I wouldn't normally when paying (though I must admit that sadly I don't travel F when paying) - I actually quite enjoy my lounge/plane experiences for a change. (As an FYI from JFK I'll be stopping again for a day or two then carrying on to Asia before ending in Australia a few days later - lots of stops rather than direct flights)
As for the seats... haven't booked, but, checking on the M+M website this morning it appeared to have full availability for F seats on the A330 for days around my expected travel - hoping that wasn't some false hope - maybe I'll get on the telephone (to bmi) and book that tomorrow then!
All the posts have given me a fair amount to think about though - so cheers - much appreciated
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http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/pbr2008/pbrn20.pdf
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I agree that APD is a pain but for the record the rate from the UK to the US in C and F will be Ł90 from Nov 2009 - Oct 2010 and Ł120 from Nov 2010 onwards.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/pbr2008/pbrn20.pdf
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/pbr2008/pbrn20.pdf
#21
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WOW, the next experience maximizer in a long row.
The FCT opens at 5:45am. Usually there are some pax, who camp in a tent in front of the FCT in order to be the first to get in early morning. Since there is a first come first serve process for the FCT I would recommend to come no later than midnight to be sure to be one of the first few hundred to get entry in the morning.
The FCT opens at 5:45am. Usually there are some pax, who camp in a tent in front of the FCT in order to be the first to get in early morning. Since there is a first come first serve process for the FCT I would recommend to come no later than midnight to be sure to be one of the first few hundred to get entry in the morning.
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WOW, the next experience maximizer in a long row.
The FCT opens at 5:45am. Usually there are some pax, who camp in a tent in front of the FCT in order to be the first to get in early morning. Since there is a first come first serve process for the FCT I would recommend to come no later than midnight to be sure to be one of the first few hundred to get entry in the morning.
The FCT opens at 5:45am. Usually there are some pax, who camp in a tent in front of the FCT in order to be the first to get in early morning. Since there is a first come first serve process for the FCT I would recommend to come no later than midnight to be sure to be one of the first few hundred to get entry in the morning.
#23
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I would never book a longer connection just to sit in a lounge (why ), but having lounge access might tip the balance in favour of a longer connection time rather than risking a misconnect.
So, if I fly with SmilingGirl, on, say, HAJ-FRA-YVR-HNL (like I will do in September), there were two options. Either 1h25m in FRA or 2h45m in FRA by taking an earlier plane. The first one is ok, but not a lot of time for delays. But there is a real risk of missing the long-haul flight. Since staying 1h45m in a lounge is not so terrible, we opted for the longer connection.
So, if I fly with SmilingGirl, on, say, HAJ-FRA-YVR-HNL (like I will do in September), there were two options. Either 1h25m in FRA or 2h45m in FRA by taking an earlier plane. The first one is ok, but not a lot of time for delays. But there is a real risk of missing the long-haul flight. Since staying 1h45m in a lounge is not so terrible, we opted for the longer connection.
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WOW, the next experience maximizer in a long row.
The FCT opens at 5:45am. Usually there are some pax, who camp in a tent in front of the FCT in order to be the first to get in early morning. Since there is a first come first serve process for the FCT I would recommend to come no later than midnight to be sure to be one of the first few hundred to get entry in the morning.
The FCT opens at 5:45am. Usually there are some pax, who camp in a tent in front of the FCT in order to be the first to get in early morning. Since there is a first come first serve process for the FCT I would recommend to come no later than midnight to be sure to be one of the first few hundred to get entry in the morning.
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