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Old Sep 10, 2009, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by LonLH
Quite possible- it was C9 D9 two days before departure, when I booked my D-ticket. Y was quite empty and I was offered a Y seat, so they could not have upgraded pax from an oversold Y cabin.
You are telling us they denied boarding to a HON with a D fare?
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by mh492
I did hear that some flight managers in FRA lately make really bad judgment calls when it comes to standby and upgrade pax. Seems the Y overbooking and big number of upgrades is pretty nasty to handle.
FRA kept me holding until the last second - after "giving" my Y seat away, then not allowing me to take another until my BP was scanned, and only then they did the op-up!

Good thing the C cabin was empty so I could get "my" usual seat...

(Oh yes, I'm only SEN! )
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
I am going to go out on a limb here and say I don't mind FRA (gasp!).
same here...

Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
Also- where are you flying to that you get rebooked over to UA? This has happened two me exactly twice in ten years.
in all honesty, if i have to be somewhere at a certain time i do not care on what carrier they rebook me on as long as its safe. i wouldnt prefer to be put on UA or US but if thats what it takes then so be it...
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 1:03 am
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Originally Posted by mh492
Also I am quite curious if you had an F ticket, what would be payment if you would have accepted the Y seat. That is like two downgrades
Nope- as you noted in your next post, I was on a D ticket
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 1:06 am
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Originally Posted by mh492
You are telling us they denied boarding to a HON with a D fare?
Nope- I am a lowly SEN about 150K short of HON. Which is why I decided to fly LH rather than SQ (we have a corporate deal with SQ who will upgrade full C to F as SQ loads have taken a hit ex LHR) to rack up some HON miles before end 2009.
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by LonLH
Nope- I am a lowly SEN about 150K short of HON. Which is why I decided to fly LH rather than SQ (we have a corporate deal with SQ who will upgrade full C to F as SQ loads have taken a hit ex LHR) to rack up some HON miles before end 2009.
Actually 150k short for HON is not a lowly SEN. That is a SEN who already flew 450k on LH metal. Which is most likely 350k more than the average SEN spents on LH in a two term cycle.
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by mh492
Actually 150k short for HON is not a lowly SEN. That is a SEN who already flew 450k on LH metal. Which is most likely 350k more than the average SEN spents on LH in a two term cycle.
Being in the same situation, I sometime wonder if anyone takes any notice of that. I mean, do they actually see the number of your status miles anywhere? Will that matter if they do (for upgrades, for instance)? Because I get the feeling that there is no differentiation within the SEN bracket based on that - having flown 450k makes me no better SEN than the guy who did 100k. Probably the only thing they see and care about is the SEN (or sometimes SEN+) label.

And as for LonLH, it's nice to hear that they had someone meeting and escorting a SEN travelling in C, independently of what happened next. I though it would only happen for HONs and those travelling in F.
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by LonLH
(we have a corporate deal with SQ who will upgrade full C to F as SQ loads have taken a hit ex LHR)
If I have a deal with SQ such as above I wouldn't bother to fly LH.

SQ First Class is much superior than LH especially Ex-LHR with the A380 ^.
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 2:54 am
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Originally Posted by LH/LX
If I have a deal with SQ such as above I wouldn't bother to fly LH.

SQ First Class is much superior than LH especially Ex-LHR with the A380 ^.
I wouldn't bother with LH either if I had such a deal available !
Why sleep on a slippery slope they call LH C if I could be slummin' it out in SQ F ?
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by sentom
in all honesty, if i have to be somewhere at a certain time i do not care on what carrier they rebook me on as long as its safe. i wouldnt prefer to be put on UA or US but if thats what it takes then so be it...
Agreed 100%.
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 3:58 am
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Originally Posted by graf0
Being in the same situation, I sometime wonder if anyone takes any notice of that. I mean, do they actually see the number of your status miles anywhere? Will that matter if they do (for upgrades, for instance)? Because I get the feeling that there is no differentiation within the SEN bracket based on that - having flown 450k makes me no better SEN than the guy who did 100k. Probably the only thing they see and care about is the SEN (or sometimes SEN+) label.
I do have no proof of this, but I think it makes a difference for the generated upgrade list from LH IT. My theory is that the list is either sorted by revenue or by HON Circle miles. For everything else it makes no real difference, because the check-in staff only sees your award mileage balance.
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by graf0
Being in the same situation, I sometime wonder if anyone takes any notice of that. I mean, do they actually see the number of your status miles anywhere? Will that matter if they do (for upgrades, for instance)? Because I get the feeling that there is no differentiation within the SEN bracket based on that - having flown 450k makes me no better SEN than the guy who did 100k. Probably the only thing they see and care about is the SEN (or sometimes SEN+) label.

And as for LonLH, it's nice to hear that they had someone meeting and escorting a SEN travelling in C, independently of what happened next. I though it would only happen for HONs and those travelling in F.
It only really matters for op-ups but LH IT does know about your current ranking.
You will be near the very top when it comes to dishing out op-ups, way ahead of the "100k every other year SEN scum of the earth" !
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 4:10 am
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Originally Posted by Rambuster
It only really matters for op-ups but LH IT does know about your current ranking.
You will be near the very top when it comes to dishing out op-ups, way ahead of the "100k every other year SEN scum of the earth" !
But unfortunately for the OP, Flight Managers/GA's just simply "steamroller" their choices and overrule the system - as in this case!
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 4:46 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
But unfortunately for the OP, Flight Managers/GA's just simply "steamroller" their choices and overrule the system - as in this case!
Correct...but I did mention "near the top". Of course friends & family come FIRST.

I recently sat next to the 17yr old son (PAD in F) of the captain on an overbooked FRA-BKK flight. Revenue pax were bumped off ...
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by Rambuster
I wouldn't bother with LH either if I had such a deal available !
Why sleep on a slippery slope they call LH C if I could be slummin' it out in SQ F ?
Hear, hear! ^
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