LH F to SIN v TG F to BKK?
Mar 4, 2009, 4:10 pm
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LH F to SIN v TG F to BKK?
We are planning a trip to Australia in October stopping somewhere in the Far East for a couple of days on the way out.
I have found 2 F seat redemptions on TG 923 from Frankfurt to BKK. Is the 747 operating this flight the 7443 "type" aircraft with the new F class seats? Also what are lounge facilities like in FRA for TG passengers as will have a few hours to wait. Is new FCL accessible for this flight.
An alternative is LH 778 F class to Singapore. How does this service compare to TG F class on BKK service? I think we can use FCT or the new FCL if we took this flight.
Flying to BKK would mean an extra BKK-SIN before flying down to MEL as no seats on BKK-MEL the days we want to travel but as we will be flying back from Hong Kong to Frankfurt in F class 3 weeks later thought may be worthwhile to try TG. Any comments from those that have travelled these routes recently would be appreciated.
I have found 2 F seat redemptions on TG 923 from Frankfurt to BKK. Is the 747 operating this flight the 7443 "type" aircraft with the new F class seats? Also what are lounge facilities like in FRA for TG passengers as will have a few hours to wait. Is new FCL accessible for this flight.
An alternative is LH 778 F class to Singapore. How does this service compare to TG F class on BKK service? I think we can use FCT or the new FCL if we took this flight.
Flying to BKK would mean an extra BKK-SIN before flying down to MEL as no seats on BKK-MEL the days we want to travel but as we will be flying back from Hong Kong to Frankfurt in F class 3 weeks later thought may be worthwhile to try TG. Any comments from those that have travelled these routes recently would be appreciated.
Mar 4, 2009, 4:21 pm
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I would never use TG on a "full fare redemption". At least in 2008 they sold F/C tickets so bloddy cheap ex Germany that using miles was a waste.
With TG, at FRA you will not have access to the FCL but to the SEN Lounges. TG's ground service is not bad, they take you through the airport. Lounge in BKK is not bad either, however, you can use the same lounge on an LH ticket (with the exception of the spa)
Foodwise LH wins very clearly. Servicewise LH is pretty much consistent and great if you appreciate European style service. TG can be a hit and miss.
I used them three times on the BKK route last year in F/C. I enjoyed it, however, I would not enjoy spending real miles for it.
With TG, at FRA you will not have access to the FCL but to the SEN Lounges. TG's ground service is not bad, they take you through the airport. Lounge in BKK is not bad either, however, you can use the same lounge on an LH ticket (with the exception of the spa)
Foodwise LH wins very clearly. Servicewise LH is pretty much consistent and great if you appreciate European style service. TG can be a hit and miss.
I used them three times on the BKK route last year in F/C. I enjoyed it, however, I would not enjoy spending real miles for it.
Mar 4, 2009, 4:31 pm
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TG uses the 7443 on the FRA route. Usually this route is quite safe from equipment changes, other than MUC, where occasionally a 7442 is subsituted. 
Mar 4, 2009, 5:22 pm
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And besides, which city do you actually want to visit?
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Mar 4, 2009, 5:28 pm
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Mar 4, 2009, 6:21 pm
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If I were flying solo TG would be a no-brainer, because of the LH 2x2 seating in F on the 747. But flying in pairs it's worth considering LH.
Ground service in FRA: LH (FCT/FCL vs SEN lounge)
Food: LH (IMHO... and I love Thai food, but TG's presentation is highly inconsistent)
Service: LH is consistently ok, TG has flashes of both brilliance and mediocrity
Seat: TG
AVOD: TG
Ground service in BKK vs SIN: TG (met at gate, outstanding F lounge, spa)
Ground service in FRA: LH (FCT/FCL vs SEN lounge)
Food: LH (IMHO... and I love Thai food, but TG's presentation is highly inconsistent)
Service: LH is consistently ok, TG has flashes of both brilliance and mediocrity
Seat: TG
AVOD: TG
Ground service in BKK vs SIN: TG (met at gate, outstanding F lounge, spa)
Mar 4, 2009, 7:27 pm
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Agree with all said.
Pro LH:
LH is more consistent in service and food. LH has the FCT/FCL in FRA.
Pro TG:
BKK is a great destination. Thai food on the plane. When traveling alone the seat is significantly better.
Atthe end i would select by schedule and places you want to see.
Pro LH:
LH is more consistent in service and food. LH has the FCT/FCL in FRA.
Pro TG:
BKK is a great destination. Thai food on the plane. When traveling alone the seat is significantly better.
Atthe end i would select by schedule and places you want to see.
Mar 4, 2009, 8:15 pm
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Last time I flew LH from BKK to FRA
Next time in september I booked a Lufthansa ticket operated by Thai so I think this way I can try Thai F onboard (seat particulary) and have the same LH benefits on the ground. I hope Im not wrong
Oh... LH F on the 744 was a very pleasant experience so was the limo service from the lounge to my next flight!
Next time in september I booked a Lufthansa ticket operated by Thai so I think this way I can try Thai F onboard (seat particulary) and have the same LH benefits on the ground. I hope Im not wrong
Oh... LH F on the 744 was a very pleasant experience so was the limo service from the lounge to my next flight!
Mar 4, 2009, 10:26 pm
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i am facing the exact same choice, but westbound.
therefore, i am interested in the differences in the arrival experience at FRA on TG F versus LH F (assuming an onward LH C flight).
would LH F arrival allow me in the FCL?
would TG F arrival only allow me in the SEN lounge (i am S*G)?
thanks.
therefore, i am interested in the differences in the arrival experience at FRA on TG F versus LH F (assuming an onward LH C flight).
would LH F arrival allow me in the FCL?
would TG F arrival only allow me in the SEN lounge (i am S*G)?
thanks.
Mar 4, 2009, 11:49 pm
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i am facing the exact same choice, but westbound.
therefore, i am interested in the differences in the arrival experience at FRA on TG F versus LH F (assuming an onward LH C flight).
would LH F arrival allow me in the FCL?
would TG F arrival only allow me in the SEN lounge (i am S*G)?
thanks.
therefore, i am interested in the differences in the arrival experience at FRA on TG F versus LH F (assuming an onward LH C flight).
would LH F arrival allow me in the FCL?
would TG F arrival only allow me in the SEN lounge (i am S*G)?
thanks.
SEN lounges are not arrival lounges for non-LH pax ! Therefore a TG F BP will not get you access to the SEN lounge unless you have a SEN card.
Mar 4, 2009, 11:57 pm
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A TG F BP will not get you any lounge access on arrival in FRA.
Mar 5, 2009, 6:23 am
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Mar 5, 2009, 7:17 am
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I'd definitely go for TG.
The FCT used to be the big convenience factor in FRA, but since this option is gone for transfer pax, connecting in FRA has become just as annoying for LH F pax as for anybody else.
Hence it comes down to the flight product. Here, the TG F cabin is much more spacious and the seats are more comfortable than LH's antique F product on the 744. Especially when flying solo, LH F is really a no-go on the 744, as you might well end up sleeping with a complete stranger.
Not to forget that TG is much better on the ground in BKK, especially if you also use them on your way back to Europe with a stopover at BKK. Currently, TG also offers a free limo ride service to the city or Pattaya for paid F pax. Plus, their spa at BKK is free of charge, whereas the LH spa at the B FCL charges absurd amounts of $$$ for almost nothing, hence is pretty much useless for the minority of LH pax who have kept themselves a sane mind.
The FCT used to be the big convenience factor in FRA, but since this option is gone for transfer pax, connecting in FRA has become just as annoying for LH F pax as for anybody else.
Hence it comes down to the flight product. Here, the TG F cabin is much more spacious and the seats are more comfortable than LH's antique F product on the 744. Especially when flying solo, LH F is really a no-go on the 744, as you might well end up sleeping with a complete stranger.
Not to forget that TG is much better on the ground in BKK, especially if you also use them on your way back to Europe with a stopover at BKK. Currently, TG also offers a free limo ride service to the city or Pattaya for paid F pax. Plus, their spa at BKK is free of charge, whereas the LH spa at the B FCL charges absurd amounts of $$$ for almost nothing, hence is pretty much useless for the minority of LH pax who have kept themselves a sane mind.