Ways to lose SEN status?
#31
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OK, I'll back szg up for how it used to be, not how how it is now. Back when the numbskulls lowered the amount of overdraft which was available (and they were definitely numbskulls for the way they handled it), the M&M threat was indeed to either pay for the miles in excess of the new allowable overdraft or suffer the wrath of the Expectation Managers which potentially meant expulsion from the coveted ranks of SENator.
But, with further consideration, I have to side with you on the current situation until proven otherwise
But, with further consideration, I have to side with you on the current situation until proven otherwise
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#39
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Hey, I winked! And I got it right in the first post while I winked! Sensitive, are we?
I came up with another one:
- Not being able to exploit LH AirRail to collect large amounts of miles for train rides
And here's another, but I don't think it actually rates being added:
- Flying enough miles, but doing so in a military Lockheed C-130 Hercules turboprop (or myriad of other non-mileage earning platforms / non-LH aircraft. Maybe my thread title should have been: how many hairs can be split and how thinly can we split them while coming up with all the ways to lose SEN status?
I came up with another one:
- Not being able to exploit LH AirRail to collect large amounts of miles for train rides
And here's another, but I don't think it actually rates being added:
- Flying enough miles, but doing so in a military Lockheed C-130 Hercules turboprop (or myriad of other non-mileage earning platforms / non-LH aircraft. Maybe my thread title should have been: how many hairs can be split and how thinly can we split them while coming up with all the ways to lose SEN status?
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I got another one: flying on a LH private jet charter and forgetting to mention your M&M number at the time of booking!
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you forgot something really important.......
beeing rude to lh and miles and more staff this can make you beeing closed out from miles and more totally and get all miles lost .....
and i can tell you sometimes people is extremely rude...... but lucky that its only a very very few people most is very nice i must say
but well terms and conditions of miles and more 3.1 ......
beeing rude to lh and miles and more staff this can make you beeing closed out from miles and more totally and get all miles lost .....
and i can tell you sometimes people is extremely rude...... but lucky that its only a very very few people most is very nice i must say
but well terms and conditions of miles and more 3.1 ......
3.1. Notice of termination, suspension, exclusion from membership
The member may give written notice at any time to terminate the contract without observing a period of notice. Termination by Lufthansa or a joint operator of the programme is subject to two weeks’ notice, unless the termination of membership is for material cause and without notice. Termination without notice by Lufthansa or a joint operator and exclusion from membership shall have future effect, should there be a material cause. Material cause exists in particular in the event of a serious violation by the member of these terms and conditions or the conditions of carriage employed by Lufthansa, a joint operator or partner company, or of any Miles & More rules stated in the programme documents or in Miles & More communication media. The same applies to any case of misuse as set forth in item 2.4.8, if a member intentionally provides false information, or in cases of harassment or damaging behaviour towards employees or passengers of Lufthansa, a joint operator or partner company. This will also apply to any failure to obey the instructions of staff in charge, particularly on board or in lounges. These arrangements shall not rule out further legal claims (specifically claims for damages). In the above-mentioned cases, Lufthansa or a joint operator reserves the right to refuse a frequent flyer status such as Frequent Traveller, Senator or HON Circle Member and can terminate an existing status unilaterally, without further notice. In the cases mentioned above, Lufthansa also reserves the right to freeze the member’s account. Lufthansa also reserves the right to freeze an account in the case of any objective suspicions of material cause during the time required to properly investigate the facts.
No claims shall be asserted by the member against such freezing of an account. Once Lufthansa or a joint operator has terminated a membership, renewed participation in Miles & More is no longer possible. These terms and conditions continue to govern the winding up of the membership following termination.
The member may give written notice at any time to terminate the contract without observing a period of notice. Termination by Lufthansa or a joint operator of the programme is subject to two weeks’ notice, unless the termination of membership is for material cause and without notice. Termination without notice by Lufthansa or a joint operator and exclusion from membership shall have future effect, should there be a material cause. Material cause exists in particular in the event of a serious violation by the member of these terms and conditions or the conditions of carriage employed by Lufthansa, a joint operator or partner company, or of any Miles & More rules stated in the programme documents or in Miles & More communication media. The same applies to any case of misuse as set forth in item 2.4.8, if a member intentionally provides false information, or in cases of harassment or damaging behaviour towards employees or passengers of Lufthansa, a joint operator or partner company. This will also apply to any failure to obey the instructions of staff in charge, particularly on board or in lounges. These arrangements shall not rule out further legal claims (specifically claims for damages). In the above-mentioned cases, Lufthansa or a joint operator reserves the right to refuse a frequent flyer status such as Frequent Traveller, Senator or HON Circle Member and can terminate an existing status unilaterally, without further notice. In the cases mentioned above, Lufthansa also reserves the right to freeze the member’s account. Lufthansa also reserves the right to freeze an account in the case of any objective suspicions of material cause during the time required to properly investigate the facts.
No claims shall be asserted by the member against such freezing of an account. Once Lufthansa or a joint operator has terminated a membership, renewed participation in Miles & More is no longer possible. These terms and conditions continue to govern the winding up of the membership following termination.
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