Europe - LAX
Nov 22, 2007, 2:11 pm
#1
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Europe - LAX
Wich airline has the best service onboard in business class....
This on the route Europe - to Los Angeles (LAX)
Has Lufthansa or Air France a better inflight service onboard?
I hope you can help me, thnx a lot!
Sebas
This on the route Europe - to Los Angeles (LAX)
Has Lufthansa or Air France a better inflight service onboard?
I hope you can help me, thnx a lot!
Sebas
Nov 22, 2007, 2:29 pm
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What about BA? Would definitely rate it over AF.
But to answer your question: my AF experience is limited to only one longhaul flight and I was not too impressed, especially because I had to connect in CDG which is a pain, even more than LHR. And connection is part of service experience IMHO. The onboard service on LH is really professional and quite consistent. Not sure about AF.
This thread, while old, might help as well.
But to answer your question: my AF experience is limited to only one longhaul flight and I was not too impressed, especially because I had to connect in CDG which is a pain, even more than LHR. And connection is part of service experience IMHO. The onboard service on LH is really professional and quite consistent. Not sure about AF.
This thread, while old, might help as well.
Nov 23, 2007, 10:01 am
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Nov 23, 2007, 10:25 am
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CDG is not really a glorious option either... really depends on what you are looking for, NZs full flat seat might be worth the pain of LHR, definitely more worth than going thru CDG for AFs angled seat...
Nov 23, 2007, 1:35 pm
#10
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The seat on LH and AF is almost the same, fully flat but with a slight angle. BA 's seat is quite narrow but therefore fully flat and really comfortable.
Service on BA is hit or miss. Don't know about AF but in my experience you get a quite constant service on LH. I don't care about AVOD and entertainment stuff, so can't comment on this. Food is almost the same with probably a slight plus for LH.
If it comes to their hubs: MUC is great, FRA ok, LHR dreaming of T5
and CDG not if I can avoid it…
Nov 23, 2007, 2:05 pm
#11
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Hey,
LX new C isn't that bad
On the ZRH-LAX-route, LX flyes with the A340-300, which has (more or less) the same seat as LH (and obviously as AF - I will never know...): Angled, but full flat. I sleep like a log on these.
The service is quite similar to LH's, IMO slightly more personal.
Concerning the hubs:
ZRH and MUC are absolutely bearable (new and well arranged - I use both of them regularely...), FRA and LHR are - let's say - "unattractive", and CDG - no comment.
LX new C isn't that bad
On the ZRH-LAX-route, LX flyes with the A340-300, which has (more or less) the same seat as LH (and obviously as AF - I will never know...): Angled, but full flat. I sleep like a log on these.
The service is quite similar to LH's, IMO slightly more personal.
Concerning the hubs:
ZRH and MUC are absolutely bearable (new and well arranged - I use both of them regularely...), FRA and LHR are - let's say - "unattractive", and CDG - no comment.
Nov 23, 2007, 3:46 pm
#12
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I had a "hit or miss" experience recently flying FRA - HYD return in C (the "roseless" flight 
). FRA - HYD was truly stunning - the entire crew truly cared and made the flight experience very special. HYD - FRA - crew was lazy, apart from the two drink services no refills other than on request, breakfast service started 2.5 hours before landing 
, etc.
Having said that, flying BA C or LH C is usually worth the investment IME.
). FRA - HYD was truly stunning - the entire crew truly cared and made the flight experience very special. HYD - FRA - crew was lazy, apart from the two drink services no refills other than on request, breakfast service started 2.5 hours before landing , etc.Having said that, flying BA C or LH C is usually worth the investment IME.
Nov 23, 2007, 4:09 pm
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I had a look at the LHR-LAX fares on NZ:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
The Z fare doesn't look too bad considering it is ex-LHR !
Here is FRA-LAX with NZ via LON: (much better!)
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
However LH's Z fares are much cheaper (but do note that there is a long advance purchase rule!)
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
AF ex CDG:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
Code:
LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] LAX Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX] RT Nov-Oct Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- NZ LON LAX 3119 EUR Thu 12M ZLGB3 NZ LON LAX 3469 EUR Thu 12M ZHGB3 NZ LON LAX 3708 EUR 12M DLGB3 NZ LON LAX 4058 EUR 12M DHGB3 NZ LON LAX 4687 EUR 12M CAPGB3 NZ LON LAX 6506 EUR 12M CGB3 NZ LON LAX 10225 EUR C2
Here is FRA-LAX with NZ via LON: (much better!)
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
Code:
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] LAX Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX] RT Nov-Oct Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- NZ FRA LAX 2354 EUR 12M J3DE NZ FRA LAX 2904 EUR 12M Z3DE NZ FRA LAX 4463 EUR 12M D3DE NZ FRA LAX 6622 EUR 12M C3DE
However LH's Z fares are much cheaper (but do note that there is a long advance purchase rule!)
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
Code:
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] LAX Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX] RT Nov-Oct Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- LH FRA LAX 2379 EUR Sun 1M ZSPEC LH FRA LAX 2549 EUR 08 Jan 1M ZSPECIW LH FRA LAX 4439 EUR Wed 1M D1USW LH FRA LAX 5533 EUR 12M CR
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
Code:
CDG Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG] LAX Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX] RT Nov-Oct Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- AF PAR LAX 2842 EUR Sun 45 ZLOISIR AF PAR LAX 2842 EUR 01 Jan Sun 45 ZPROMO21 AF PAR LAX 5180 EUR Thu 6M DWEEK14 AF PAR LAX 7195 EUR CRT1 AF PAR LAX 7195 EUR CRT AF PAR LAX 8222 EUR JRT AF PAR LAX 8222 EUR JRT1
Nov 24, 2007, 12:56 am
#15
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I can have a nice Z fare on Lufthansa, Swiss or Air France. A few months ago I travelled in Luftansa business class from Ams to SFO. That was okee. How is the business class of Air France compared to Lufthansa? Is Air France better or not?