Sep 11, 2014, 11:07 am
Last edit by: oliver2002
Current MCT to/from LH at MUC:
Code:
MUC-MUC FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
LH BUS - 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH - BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH 2 - 2 0040 0040 0040 0040
LH BUS 2 - 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100
-LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
2 -LH 2 0040 0040 0040 0040
2 -LH BUS 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
1 -LH BUS 2 0130 ---- 0130 ----
SC 2 -LH AL 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH BG 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH CY 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH EG 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH GB 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH GE 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH IE 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH ME 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH RO 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH RS 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH TN 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH TR 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH 0400-0799 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH BUS 2 -LH 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH 2 -LH BUS 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH AL 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH BG 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH CY 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH EG 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH GB 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH GE 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH IE 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH ME 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH RO 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH RS 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH TN 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH TR 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH BUS 2 -LH IL 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH BUS 2 -LH IN 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH BUS 2 -LH US 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH AL 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH BG 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH CY 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH EG 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH GB 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH GE 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH IE 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH ME 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH RO 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH RS 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH TN 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH TR 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH 0400-0799 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH SC 2 -LH 0400-0799 2 ---- 0050 ---- 0050
LH 9439-9439 2 Y-LH 2 ---- ---- 0045 ----
LH 9469-9469 2 Y-LH 2 ---- ---- 0045 ----
LH XQ-LH ---- ---- 0130 0130
-LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
2 -LH 2 A3 ---- ---- ---- 0045
1 -LH 1 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100
2 -LH 1 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130
1 -LH 2 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130
2 -LH 2 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100
LH -LH XQ ---- ---- ---- 0130
LH 2 -LH 2 EW ---- 0040 ---- ----
LH 2 -LH 2 UA ---- ---- ---- 0040
LH 2 AC-LH 2 LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
Connecting in Munich [MUC]
Jun 4, 2019, 2:42 pm
#1816
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 313
AA to LH connection on separate tickets
Hello MUC experts!
Based on my readings of the MCTs involved and the efficiency of the MUC airport, I'm pretty sure this will work, but I would like some confirmation from those who have actually been to MUC, as I have not. This weekend I'm looking to fly on AA from CLT to MUC, arriving, presumably, at T1, then transfer to a LH flight to DBV, presumably from T2. If I'm reading Sabre correctly the MCT for this transfer is 1:00. I'll have 1:50, assuming everything is on time (cue the AA jokes...). The catch is that this would be on two separate tickets (actually, this is AA staff travel, so it's standby on two separate tickets, but that shouldn't be relevant here. Let's assume I'm a well-seasoned non-rev and can handle that aspect). I'll be travelling with my wife and son, who is only 3 but has flown more miles than most adults (not more than most adults on this forum, just more than most adults in general
), on US passports, with no checked luggage. I think that the transit should be no problem whatsoever based on what I've read, but would love to hear the opinion of someone's who knows more than I. Would anyone care to confirm or refute my assessment? Thanks in advance!
Also, any tips for the transit (i.e. shortest immigration lines, etc) would be welcome!
Based on my readings of the MCTs involved and the efficiency of the MUC airport, I'm pretty sure this will work, but I would like some confirmation from those who have actually been to MUC, as I have not. This weekend I'm looking to fly on AA from CLT to MUC, arriving, presumably, at T1, then transfer to a LH flight to DBV, presumably from T2. If I'm reading Sabre correctly the MCT for this transfer is 1:00. I'll have 1:50, assuming everything is on time (cue the AA jokes...). The catch is that this would be on two separate tickets (actually, this is AA staff travel, so it's standby on two separate tickets, but that shouldn't be relevant here. Let's assume I'm a well-seasoned non-rev and can handle that aspect). I'll be travelling with my wife and son, who is only 3 but has flown more miles than most adults (not more than most adults on this forum, just more than most adults in general
), on US passports, with no checked luggage. I think that the transit should be no problem whatsoever based on what I've read, but would love to hear the opinion of someone's who knows more than I. Would anyone care to confirm or refute my assessment? Thanks in advance!Also, any tips for the transit (i.e. shortest immigration lines, etc) would be welcome!
Jun 4, 2019, 3:03 pm
#1817
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Wow, MUC is very easy within T1 , main to Satellite but T2 to T1 seems very short for me on separate tickets.... and with an infant .... on separate tickets I would always allow 3 hrs minimum
Jun 5, 2019, 4:48 am
#1818
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OU4439 is operated by a DH8-400. Turboprop / CRJ flights will not depart from the Satellite terminal, therefore the gate will be H. The inbound flight can either arrive at a G or a K gate.
Jun 5, 2019, 5:02 am
#1819
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Hello MUC experts!
Based on my readings of the MCTs involved and the efficiency of the MUC airport, I'm pretty sure this will work, but I would like some confirmation from those who have actually been to MUC, as I have not. This weekend I'm looking to fly on AA from CLT to MUC, arriving, presumably, at T1, then transfer to a LH flight to DBV, presumably from T2. If I'm reading Sabre correctly the MCT for this transfer is 1:00. I'll have 1:50, assuming everything is on time (cue the AA jokes...). The catch is that this would be on two separate tickets (actually, this is AA staff travel, so it's standby on two separate tickets, but that shouldn't be relevant here. Let's assume I'm a well-seasoned non-rev and can handle that aspect). I'll be travelling with my wife and son, who is only 3 but has flown more miles than most adults (not more than most adults on this forum, just more than most adults in general), on US passports, with no checked luggage. I think that the transit should be no problem whatsoever based on what I've read, but would love to hear the opinion of someone's who knows more than I. Would anyone care to confirm or refute my assessment? Thanks in advance!
Also, any tips for the transit (i.e. shortest immigration lines, etc) would be welcome!
Based on my readings of the MCTs involved and the efficiency of the MUC airport, I'm pretty sure this will work, but I would like some confirmation from those who have actually been to MUC, as I have not. This weekend I'm looking to fly on AA from CLT to MUC, arriving, presumably, at T1, then transfer to a LH flight to DBV, presumably from T2. If I'm reading Sabre correctly the MCT for this transfer is 1:00. I'll have 1:50, assuming everything is on time (cue the AA jokes...). The catch is that this would be on two separate tickets (actually, this is AA staff travel, so it's standby on two separate tickets, but that shouldn't be relevant here. Let's assume I'm a well-seasoned non-rev and can handle that aspect). I'll be travelling with my wife and son, who is only 3 but has flown more miles than most adults (not more than most adults on this forum, just more than most adults in general
), on US passports, with no checked luggage. I think that the transit should be no problem whatsoever based on what I've read, but would love to hear the opinion of someone's who knows more than I. Would anyone care to confirm or refute my assessment? Thanks in advance!Also, any tips for the transit (i.e. shortest immigration lines, etc) would be welcome!
For details regarding the shutte bus operations see:
https://www.munich-airport.com/transit-260553
https://www.munich-airport.com/_b/00...-bus-t1-t2.pdf
The bus leaves from C8, so upon arrival in B follow the transit signs to C and enter the departure area C.
I agree with chris63 that such a T1-T2 connection on separate tickets (even without an infant in tow) is tight. If you chose the landside option you need to factor in a 10 min walk (15-20 min with a kid without using a stroller) from T1B to T2 (including passing passport control twice and security once). Even if it works out there's barely any margin for error.
Last edited by cas_de; Jun 5, 2019 at 5:22 am
Jun 5, 2019, 6:44 am
#1820
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such a T1-T2 connection on separate tickets (even without an infant in tow) is tight. If you chose the landside option you need to factor in a 10 min walk (15-20 min with a kid without using a stroller) from T1B to T2 (including passing passport control twice and security once). Even if it works out there's barely any margin for error.
If that were to work for the OP on separate tickets, I suggest the OP starts playing EUROMILLIONS
Jun 5, 2019, 1:27 pm
#1821
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Hello MUC experts!
Based on my readings of the MCTs involved and the efficiency of the MUC airport, I'm pretty sure this will work, but I would like some confirmation from those who have actually been to MUC, as I have not. This weekend I'm looking to fly on AA from CLT to MUC, arriving, presumably, at T1, then transfer to a LH flight to DBV, presumably from T2. If I'm reading Sabre correctly the MCT for this transfer is 1:00. I'll have 1:50, assuming everything is on time (cue the AA jokes...). The catch is that this would be on two separate tickets (actually, this is AA staff travel, so it's standby on two separate tickets, but that shouldn't be relevant here. Let's assume I'm a well-seasoned non-rev and can handle that aspect). I'll be travelling with my wife and son, who is only 3 but has flown more miles than most adults (not more than most adults on this forum, just more than most adults in general), on US passports, with no checked luggage. I think that the transit should be no problem whatsoever based on what I've read, but would love to hear the opinion of someone's who knows more than I. Would anyone care to confirm or refute my assessment? Thanks in advance!
Also, any tips for the transit (i.e. shortest immigration lines, etc) would be welcome!
Based on my readings of the MCTs involved and the efficiency of the MUC airport, I'm pretty sure this will work, but I would like some confirmation from those who have actually been to MUC, as I have not. This weekend I'm looking to fly on AA from CLT to MUC, arriving, presumably, at T1, then transfer to a LH flight to DBV, presumably from T2. If I'm reading Sabre correctly the MCT for this transfer is 1:00. I'll have 1:50, assuming everything is on time (cue the AA jokes...). The catch is that this would be on two separate tickets (actually, this is AA staff travel, so it's standby on two separate tickets, but that shouldn't be relevant here. Let's assume I'm a well-seasoned non-rev and can handle that aspect). I'll be travelling with my wife and son, who is only 3 but has flown more miles than most adults (not more than most adults on this forum, just more than most adults in general
), on US passports, with no checked luggage. I think that the transit should be no problem whatsoever based on what I've read, but would love to hear the opinion of someone's who knows more than I. Would anyone care to confirm or refute my assessment? Thanks in advance!Also, any tips for the transit (i.e. shortest immigration lines, etc) would be welcome!
LH 1708 MUC 08/06/19 8:20 DBV 08/06/19 9:45 321 J2 C1 D0 Z0 P0 Y2 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 1710 MUC 08/06/19 14:30 DBV 08/06/19 15:55 32A J7 C7 D7 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
EW 1822 MUC 08/06/19 18:35 DBV 08/06/19 20:10 320 I9 Y9 C0 R0 B9 M9 H9 Q9 W3 S0 G0 L0 T0 X0
Are you sure you guys will be able to get on to LH1708 as non-rev standbys give the current load factor? At least there are two more flights to DBV on Sat, plus a couple of connections you can try as a backup. Good luck - please let us know if you managed to make the connection and if you are able to get on LH1708. We will be going to DBV next Monday :-)
Jun 5, 2019, 3:06 pm
#1822
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 313
Judging from what you wrote above you will be arriving in MUC on Saturday morning. These are the [nonstop] flight options on Sat:
LH 1708 MUC 08/06/19 8:20 DBV 08/06/19 9:45 321 J2 C1 D0 Z0 P0 Y2 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 1710 MUC 08/06/19 14:30 DBV 08/06/19 15:55 32A J7 C7 D7 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
EW 1822 MUC 08/06/19 18:35 DBV 08/06/19 20:10 320 I9 Y9 C0 R0 B9 M9 H9 Q9 W3 S0 G0 L0 T0 X0
Are you sure you guys will be able to get on to LH1708 as non-rev standbys give the current load factor? At least there are two more flights to DBV on Sat, plus a couple of connections you can try as a backup. Good luck - please let us know if you managed to make the connection and if you are able to get on LH1708. We will be going to DBV next Monday :-)
LH 1708 MUC 08/06/19 8:20 DBV 08/06/19 9:45 321 J2 C1 D0 Z0 P0 Y2 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 1710 MUC 08/06/19 14:30 DBV 08/06/19 15:55 32A J7 C7 D7 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
EW 1822 MUC 08/06/19 18:35 DBV 08/06/19 20:10 320 I9 Y9 C0 R0 B9 M9 H9 Q9 W3 S0 G0 L0 T0 X0
Are you sure you guys will be able to get on to LH1708 as non-rev standbys give the current load factor? At least there are two more flights to DBV on Sat, plus a couple of connections you can try as a backup. Good luck - please let us know if you managed to make the connection and if you are able to get on LH1708. We will be going to DBV next Monday :-)
Thanks again for the help!
Jun 6, 2019, 12:17 am
#1823
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I have a few options at the moment and was going to weed them out as we got closer. When I checked two days ago there was much more availability on LH1708 (or maybe I accidentally looked at LH1710). I'd much prefer the earlier flight, so we'll see if I even try MUC or try to fly somewhere else.
Thanks again for the help!
Thanks again for the help!
Jun 12, 2019, 7:47 am
#1824
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1 h 50 min is shorter than what I would risk personally on separate tickets (at least non-refundable), but if there are other flights to your final destination, or you can wait to the next day it might be less of a risk.
Last edited by ksu; Jun 30, 2019 at 7:36 am
Jun 29, 2019, 11:08 pm
#1825
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Hi sorry if this was asked before but can I go to T2 with a T1 boarding pass? So do they check when you take the bus?
Planning on arriving on LH F in T2 then continue on a separate ticket from T1 (Sun Express), I have a long layover (6 hours) and want to use LH F lounge in the meantime (all arriving F passengers can use it from my understanding). I will just have to go recheck my bag when I land. (Unless I manage to get people at LAX to through check but I don't count on it)
Planning on arriving on LH F in T2 then continue on a separate ticket from T1 (Sun Express), I have a long layover (6 hours) and want to use LH F lounge in the meantime (all arriving F passengers can use it from my understanding). I will just have to go recheck my bag when I land. (Unless I manage to get people at LAX to through check but I don't count on it)
Jun 30, 2019, 12:25 am
#1826
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Hi sorry if this was asked before but can I go to T2 with a T1 boarding pass? So do they check when you take the bus?
Planning on arriving on LH F in T2 then continue on a separate ticket from T1 (Sun Express), I have a long layover (6 hours) and want to use LH F lounge in the meantime (all arriving F passengers can use it from my understanding). I will just have to go recheck my bag when I land. (Unless I manage to get people at LAX to through check but I don't count on it)
Planning on arriving on LH F in T2 then continue on a separate ticket from T1 (Sun Express), I have a long layover (6 hours) and want to use LH F lounge in the meantime (all arriving F passengers can use it from my understanding). I will just have to go recheck my bag when I land. (Unless I manage to get people at LAX to through check but I don't count on it)
SUN EXPRESS are in cooperation with LH so you might be lucky getting your bag through checked.
The FCL Staff will arrange for your bag to be taken care of if you go to one of the FCL’s and use it as an arrival lounge.
Jun 30, 2019, 3:10 am
#1827
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Once you exit after arrival they won’t let you back in with a BP from the other terminal.
SUN EXPRESS are in cooperation with LH so you might be lucky getting your bag through checked.
The FCL Staff will arrange for your bag to be taken care of if you go to one of the FCL’s and use it as an arrival lounge.
Jun 30, 2019, 9:26 am
#1828
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Connecting from LHR to JFK in a few weeks. We will both be in F and Ill be HON by then I hope. Connection is only 45 minutes. Assume I'll be well taken care of if the connection is missed. Seems like I'm on the last LH flight out if MUC so they might route me out of the other guys instead.
If I sense a delay all the way at LHR can I switch over then or would I have to kiss the connecting flight first?
If I sense a delay all the way at LHR can I switch over then or would I have to kiss the connecting flight first?
Jun 30, 2019, 9:39 am
#1829
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Connecting from LHR to JFK in a few weeks. We will both be in F and Ill be HON by then I hope. Connection is only 45 minutes. Assume I'll be well taken care of if the connection is missed. Seems like I'm on the last LH flight out if MUC so they might route me out of the other guys instead.
If I sense a delay all the way at LHR can I switch over then or would I have to kiss the connecting flight first?
If I sense a delay all the way at LHR can I switch over then or would I have to kiss the connecting flight first?