Sep 11, 2014, 11:07 am
Last edit by: oliver2002
Current MCT to/from LH at MUC:
Code:
MUC-MUC FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
LH BUS - 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH - BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH 2 - 2 0040 0040 0040 0040
LH BUS 2 - 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100
-LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
2 -LH 2 0040 0040 0040 0040
2 -LH BUS 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
1 -LH BUS 2 0130 ---- 0130 ----
SC 2 -LH AL 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH BG 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH CY 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH EG 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH GB 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH GE 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH IE 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH ME 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH RO 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH RS 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH TN 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH TR 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH 0400-0799 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH BUS 2 -LH 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH 2 -LH BUS 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH AL 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH BG 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH CY 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH EG 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH GB 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH GE 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH IE 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH ME 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH RO 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH RS 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH TN 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH TR 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH BUS 2 -LH IL 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH BUS 2 -LH IN 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH BUS 2 -LH US 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH AL 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH BG 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH CY 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH EG 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH GB 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH GE 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH IE 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH ME 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH RO 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH RS 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH TN 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH TR 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH 0400-0799 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH SC 2 -LH 0400-0799 2 ---- 0050 ---- 0050
LH 9439-9439 2 Y-LH 2 ---- ---- 0045 ----
LH 9469-9469 2 Y-LH 2 ---- ---- 0045 ----
LH XQ-LH ---- ---- 0130 0130
-LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
2 -LH 2 A3 ---- ---- ---- 0045
1 -LH 1 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100
2 -LH 1 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130
1 -LH 2 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130
2 -LH 2 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100
LH -LH XQ ---- ---- ---- 0130
LH 2 -LH 2 EW ---- 0040 ---- ----
LH 2 -LH 2 UA ---- ---- ---- 0040
LH 2 AC-LH 2 LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
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Aug 12, 2016, 12:00 am
#1411
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Welcome to ft, aglaga77! You should make it. As a EU citizen, you can go through the automated gates at MUC, that will speed things up significantly 
Are the two flights on the same ticket?
Are the two flights on the same ticket?
Aug 12, 2016, 11:33 am
#1412
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Hello,
I am flying soon from KBP (Kiev Boryspol ) to BRU via MUC. The first flight arrives 17:40 to MUC by LH2545 apparently to gate H46
Second flight is LH2292 and is scheduled departure at 18:20 from gate G3.
How long does it take to make this connection ? Given that I will need to go through passport control (EU citizen), and the gate closing times, do I have enough time ?
Thanks,
Al
I am flying soon from KBP (Kiev Boryspol ) to BRU via MUC. The first flight arrives 17:40 to MUC by LH2545 apparently to gate H46
Second flight is LH2292 and is scheduled departure at 18:20 from gate G3.
How long does it take to make this connection ? Given that I will need to go through passport control (EU citizen), and the gate closing times, do I have enough time ?
Thanks,
Al
Unfortunately the arrival and departure gates can change from day to day. LH2545 does not always arrive at gate H46 and LH2292 does not always depart from G3. Since KBP is not in Schengen or a 'clean' one-stop security country, flights from KBP arrive either on I or M level (one level above H and L).
Yesterday LH2545 arrived at I46 but today it arrived at I34. LH2292 departed from G3 yesterday but G11 today and G37 tomorrow.
As you will see on this map I46 to G3 is quite a long way while I34 to G11 is less so but they are all in T2 rather than the satellite. Between your arrival gate and departure gate you will have to clear security and passport control. MUC is a very efficient airport and if your flight from KBP arrives on time you should be able to make the connection. If you miss your connection and you are on a single ticket they will put you on the next available flight.
Aug 14, 2016, 10:27 am
#1413
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No, you don't have to go through passport control (I guess that's what you mean by "customs") or security for this connection. As long as your flight from JFK isn't late you'll be fine. If you are on one ticket and miss your connection they'll put you on the next available flight to LHR.
So can poster use T2S FCL as arrival lounge?
Is no security/PP due to non-shengen to non-shengen?
Aug 14, 2016, 10:44 am
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No passport control if travelling from non-Schengen (US) to non-Schengen (UK) and no security check if arriving from a 'clean' country (US).
Aug 14, 2016, 11:23 am
#1415
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Which poster are you referring to? If you are referring to this post there will be no access to the FCL if travelling in Business.
No passport control if travelling from non-Schengen (US) to non-Schengen (UK) and no security check if arriving from a 'clean' country (US).
No passport control if travelling from non-Schengen (US) to non-Schengen (UK) and no security check if arriving from a 'clean' country (US).
Assuming poster 'was'in F then FCL T2S is an arrival lounge option? Or best to continue to FCL near H gates?
If a ramp arrival (again in F) is there a car service in place of bus?
Aug 14, 2016, 5:34 pm
#1416
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Yes, limo in case of ramp arrival in F.
But generally longhaul flights do not arrive at ramp positions.
If not too much time for transfer, I would use the lounge nearest to my departure gate.
If more than enough time for transfer, you may do lounge hopping.
Remember: a flight arriving/departing at T2S today, may arrive/depart at T2 tomorrow...
But generally longhaul flights do not arrive at ramp positions.
If not too much time for transfer, I would use the lounge nearest to my departure gate.
If more than enough time for transfer, you may do lounge hopping.
Remember: a flight arriving/departing at T2S today, may arrive/depart at T2 tomorrow...
Aug 21, 2016, 12:45 pm
#1417
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Jetbridge at H/G 08 broken?
Not a connection issue, but I didn't know where to post. Interesting boarding for my UA B777 to IAD earlier this week at H08. The plane was at the gate, but the bridge was not connected. We had to use the stairs. First time I had to do that for a 777. The funny thing was that they did not let passengers just walk from the bus gate door to the stairs. Instead, they boarded us on busses, they drove us done the road and around H/G 02 and back to the plane standing at H08 Free tours now included with boarding
Free tours now included with boarding
Aug 24, 2016, 3:43 am
#1418
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After reading this whole thread (ok, most of it) I think I have this...
I'm flying YUL-MUC then MUC-SPU...that's a schengen to non-schengen flight..I have a five hour connection. If I want to leave T2 (where the YUL-MUC lands) and say go get a massage and use the gym at the Hilton MUC, I have to clear German passport control and then clear it again to get back into T2 for the MUC-SPU flight. Otherwise I just have to sit in the MUC Business Lounge and drink...
Do I have that right?
I'm flying YUL-MUC then MUC-SPU...that's a schengen to non-schengen flight..I have a five hour connection. If I want to leave T2 (where the YUL-MUC lands) and say go get a massage and use the gym at the Hilton MUC, I have to clear German passport control and then clear it again to get back into T2 for the MUC-SPU flight. Otherwise I just have to sit in the MUC Business Lounge and drink...
Do I have that right?
Aug 24, 2016, 4:05 am
#1419
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If you stayed in transit you'd be entirely non-schengen and wouldn't need to clear passport control at any point before Croatia.
But yes, if you'd like to leave the non-schengen sterile zone and go to the Hilton, you'd have to pass the passport control and on your way to SPU you'd obviously have to reclear security and passport control to leave schengen.
But yes, if you'd like to leave the non-schengen sterile zone and go to the Hilton, you'd have to pass the passport control and on your way to SPU you'd obviously have to reclear security and passport control to leave schengen.
Aug 27, 2016, 3:40 pm
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T2 left luggage is part of the service center. There is a service center in T1 as well (in Munich Airport Center which is between T1 and T2) and I assume it has its own left luggage.
Aug 28, 2016, 3:55 am
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Flying into MUC on Tuesday and just trying to plan this out. Is the T2 service center landside? All the maps I can find are crap, to say the least. Will be arriving from a Schengen country but departing to Canada and want to leave my carryon to go into town for a bit. I will likely arrive at a K gate. How do I get to the service center? I leave from a H probably, or L, so I have to pick it up again before going through security. The plan is then to go to the business lounge for a bit before my flight.
Aug 28, 2016, 9:02 am
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Both service centres are landside. The easiest and cheapest is to go to the lounge (Schengen, main terminal safest) and leave the carryon in one of the lockers there. They are supposedly for people staying in the lounge, so I go into the lounge and have a drink/snack before heading into town. Officially when leaving the lounge I am just doing some shopping in the terminal, but have never been asked. Obviously the carryon cannot be left overnight. The main advantage is less hassle in security when returning from town.
Aug 28, 2016, 9:39 am
#1423
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When entering from landside, you will always enter to the Schengen area.
You'd go and pick up your bag from there and then go clear the passport control to go to non-schengen area. There is no additional security screening when going between Schengen and non-schengen parts of the airport (assuming you're already sterile.).
You'd go and pick up your bag from there and then go clear the passport control to go to non-schengen area. There is no additional security screening when going between Schengen and non-schengen parts of the airport (assuming you're already sterile.).
Aug 28, 2016, 9:55 am
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When entering from landside, you will always enter to the Schengen area.
You'd go and pick up your bag from there and then go clear the passport control to go to non-schengen area. There is no additional security screening when going between Schengen and non-schengen parts of the airport (assuming you're already sterile.).
You'd go and pick up your bag from there and then go clear the passport control to go to non-schengen area. There is no additional security screening when going between Schengen and non-schengen parts of the airport (assuming you're already sterile.).
Seriously, though, thanks.
Aug 29, 2016, 1:43 am
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Just trying to wrap my head around this. I am assuming the lounge is airside? If I leave it there, I'll have to re-enter airside (security) to get the bag (can I even do that with a non-Schengen departing borading pass?), exit Schengen and re-clear security again? That's why I figured leaving it landside would be easier. Pick it up, exit Schengen and clear security for the departure gates. Do I have it wrong?
If you have LH lounge access (i.e. *A lounge access through card or as business traveller) go to the LH Business/Senator lounge in G (Schengen Main Terminal 2). Lockers next to the main desk. When returning to the airport go there and pick up the carryon before going through passport control.