Old Sep 11, 2014, 11:07 am
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Current MCT to/from LH at MUC:

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MUC-MUC      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
LH                BUS      -                            0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -                  BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -                       2    0040 0040 0040 0040
LH                BUS  2   -                       2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                  BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
                           -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
                       2   -LH                     2    0040 0040 0040 0040
                       2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                       1   -LH                BUS  2    0130 ---- 0130 ----
             SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                BUS  2   -LH                     2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH           AL        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           BG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           CY        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           EG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GB        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           IE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           ME        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RO        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RS        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TN        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TR        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IL        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IN        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           US        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH 0400-0799           2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- 0050 ---- 0050     
LH 9439-9439           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH 9469-9469           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH                       XQ-LH                          ---- ---- 0130 0130     
                           -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 A3 ---- ---- ---- 0045     
                       1   -LH                     1 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
                       2   -LH                     1 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       1   -LH                     2 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- ---- ---- 0130     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 EW ---- 0040 ---- ----     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 UA ---- ---- ---- 0040     
LH                     2 AC-LH                     2 LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 2:22 pm
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One hour in MUC is easily enough, MUC is rather easy to transfer (as long as your inbound flight is ontime).
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by NWA747SNN
I have both EU and US passports, so I can show my EU PP upon entry.
You will have to show your European passport! Nothing to do with the connection but with European immigration law!

1 hour is plenty in MUC.
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by supermasterphil
You will have to show your European passport! Nothing to do with the connection but with European immigration law!

1 hour is plenty in MUC.
I can show either passport. I do not need a visa to enter Germany as a US citizen, but the EU passport will save time.
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by NWA747SNN
I can show either passport. I do not need a visa to enter Germany as a US citizen, but the EU passport will save time.
I know that you don't need a visa.

Each country / immigration zone (like schengen states within EU) requires that you show the passport that belongs to this country / immigration zone.

When you get to Germany, you need to show the European passport (if it is a EU passport) and you will have to show the American one, once you return.
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by supermasterphil
I know that you don't need a visa.

Each country / immigration zone (like schengen states within EU) requires that you show the passport that belongs to this country / immigration zone.

When you get to Germany, you need to show the European passport (if it is a EU passport) and you will have to show the American one, once you return.
Sorry, I understand now what you mean. I will have to use my US PP on the way out of Germany, as this information is forwarded the US authorities. As a US citizen, you must both enter and leave the US on your US PP.

LUFTHANSA 435
Depart:CHICAGO/OHARE 2:35 PM
Arrive:MUNICH 6:10 AM
Seat: 1A NONSTOP
Equip: 340
MP miles: ***** FIRST CLASS

LUFTHANSA 3452 *
Depart:MUNICH 7:10 AM
Arrive:BUDAPEST 8:30 AM
Seat :3D NONSTOP
Equip: CR2
MP miles: ***** CONNOISSEUR
* OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA CITYLINE GMBH

How close are the gates for the above connecton?

Thanks
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 3:45 pm
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http://www.germany.info/relaunch/inf...t/faq/a28.html

The German government expects you to use your German passport when entering Germany and your US passport when entering the US. The same is expected of EU passport holders.
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 3:58 pm
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I mentioned that I was traveling with both passports just to explain that I would be saving time by using the EU PP. I travel back and forth to Europe 3-4 time a year, so I know which passport to use. Thank you all for your passport advise.
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 9:37 pm
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You have a 1 hr connection at MUC? You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I have a 30 min connection in MUC and I'm not worried at all. (Unless the TATL flight is late, of course)
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Old Dec 8, 2007, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by NWA747SNN
I mentioned that I was traveling with both passports just to explain that I would be saving time by using the EU PP. I travel back and forth to Europe 3-4 time a year, so I know which passport to use. Thank you all for your passport advise.
I am sorry. I didn't mean to sound bossy. All I wanted to say is that there is not really an option about which passport to show when entering the EU.
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Old Dec 8, 2007, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by supermasterphil
I am sorry. I didn't mean to sound bossy. All I wanted to say is that there is not really an option about which passport to show when entering the EU.
No problem Phil, I appreciate all the information. I was going to change to the later connecting flight, but now am very confident of making the connection.

Thanks again, everyone
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Old Dec 10, 2007, 3:47 am
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Guys, you got it all wrong - NWA747SNN doesn't need to show a passport at all because he is flying onwards to Budapest, which is non-Schengen. At MUC, you will have to go through security, but not through passport control. You will show your passport at immigration in Budapest.

1 hour should be no problem at all. Your onwards connection to BUD will be from a bus gate. Don't remember where they are (haven't flown from a non-Schengen bus gate at MUC for a while), but I guess kind of in the middle of the terminal.

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Old Dec 10, 2007, 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by SmilingBoy
Guys, you got it all wrong - NWA747SNN doesn't need to show a passport at all because he is flying onwards to Budapest, which is non-Schengen. At MUC, you will have to go through security, but not through passport control. You will show your passport at immigration in Budapest.
I've never seen security between US arrivial and non-schengen departure gates. Where would this security checkpoint be?
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Old Dec 10, 2007, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by hch
I've never seen security between US arrivial and non-schengen departure gates. Where would this security checkpoint be?
I thought if you transfer from Non-EU to EU you always have to go through security? No idea how this is implemented in MUC.

Edit: BUD flights leave from G39-G48 or G81-G84, which is non-Schengen on the G level. Your flight from ORD arrives on level H, so you will need to go down one floor. Just follow the signs to your gate.

Here is a detailed terminal map:

http://www.munich-airport.de/Mediapo...enenplanT2.pdf

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Old Dec 11, 2007, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by SmilingBoy
I thought if you transfer from Non-EU to EU you always have to go through security? No idea how this is implemented in MUC.
Originally Posted by hch
I've never seen security between US arrivial and non-schengen departure gates. Where would this security checkpoint be?
The EU mandates (re)screening all passengers to EU standards when they depart from a EU airport. So if you're coming from oustide the EU, you need to be re-screened if you're connecting, regardless of final destination.

Now, that said, MUC (and not sure if all of Germany) has had an exemption to this rule, that unfortunately will run out in 2008. So right now passengers arriving outside the EU arrive on the "upper level" of T2 and can still connect to non-Schengen destinations without re-screening.

However, sometime next year, passengers will start to be re-screened, and, according to the MUC airport magazine I recently read, at T2 they will build a "third level", to which all non-EU flights will arrive. To connect, you will have to walk to the central part of T2 on the new "third level", and then go through the apporpriate formalities depending on where you're going. But if you're connecting, you'll be re-screened no matter where you're going...

certainly will detract from the ease of MUC T2 connections.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by Bob'sYourUncle
The EU mandates (re)screening all passengers to EU standards when they depart from a EU airport. So if you're coming from oustide the EU, you need to be re-screened if you're connecting, regardless of final destination.
Oops, of course it's all of the EU and not just schengen. Also explains the second screening in front of the B3X/5X gates in FRA for the UK departures.

Now if the bloody UK would just bite the bullet and join the schengen treaty..
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