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Old Sep 11, 2014, 11:07 am
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Current MCT to/from LH at MUC:

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MUC-MUC      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
LH                BUS      -                            0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -                  BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -                       2    0040 0040 0040 0040
LH                BUS  2   -                       2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                  BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
                           -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
                       2   -LH                     2    0040 0040 0040 0040
                       2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                       1   -LH                BUS  2    0130 ---- 0130 ----
             SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                BUS  2   -LH                     2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH           AL        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           BG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           CY        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           EG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GB        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           IE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           ME        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RO        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RS        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TN        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TR        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IL        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IN        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           US        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH 0400-0799           2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- 0050 ---- 0050     
LH 9439-9439           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH 9469-9469           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH                       XQ-LH                          ---- ---- 0130 0130     
                           -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 A3 ---- ---- ---- 0045     
                       1   -LH                     1 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
                       2   -LH                     1 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       1   -LH                     2 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- ---- ---- 0130     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 EW ---- 0040 ---- ----     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 UA ---- ---- ---- 0040     
LH                     2 AC-LH                     2 LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by wilkins5555
Hi all, I'm a new poster and I'm hoping I can draw on the forum members' collective knowledge here.

Here's my story. Last week I bought a ticket to fly from Kansas City to Sarajevo to surprise my girlfriend for New Year's. I decided to go because I saw a flight advertised on airfare.com for less than half of what any other booking service was offering. (Unfortunately, it wasn't until after I bought the ticket that I read reviews about airfare.com and learned about their less than stellar reputation)

My problem is the connection time in Munich. I leave Washington at 10:15 PM on December 30th, and I'm scheduled to land in Munich at 10:20 AM on the 31st. What I didn't realize before I bought the ticket (again, unfortunately) is that my flight from Munich to Sarajevo is scheduled to take off at 10:55 AM, only 35 minutes after I'm scheduled to land in Munich.

Is it possible that I can actually make a 35 connection on an international flight from Germany to Bosnia? What makes me even more concerned is that I have been checking the additional information on the e-ticket, and the 'last check-in' time listed for my lufthansa flight from Munich to Sarajevo is 40 minutes before departure flight.

If my flight from the U.S. doesn't even arrive until 35 before...(luckily, both flights are in Terminal 2)...there's no way I'm making it, right? Unless I get lucky and my transatlantic flight arrives super early. Am I just out of luck here? If so, what happens? Is this a situation where Lufthansa will help me out, and either find another flight to Sarajevo on another airline (if possible), or give me a seat on the next day's flight to Sarajevo?

I'm kicking myself for not thinking this through beforehand, and I realize I'm responsible for the mess. I was just excited by the idea of seeing my girlfriend for New Year's, but now I'm worried that because of my failure to plan this out it may not happen. Anyway, if anyone has any advice on how I should handle this situation, please let me know. Thanks very much for any help.

Chris
Is it all on LH/UA? If so, you should be fine for connection. If it's close they'll meet you at the gate and transfer you - they may even delay the connecting flight by a few minutes.
If there is a delay in arriving, LH will look after you and put you on the first avaiable flight (direct or connecting) of any airline.
Baggage should make it to. I have done plenty of 35-40 min connects in MUC.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 2:03 pm
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Hey wilkins5555!!!

First of all, welcome to FT ^

There are two questions that I have?

1 and most important: I hope the trip is just on one ticket, not to separate ones! Is this the case? Meaning: some place in the US to Munich to Bosnia and back... not US- Munich and Munich-Bosnia...

2: What's the exact routing, airline and airports!

If you are on one ticket, you are fine. Munich airport and especially Terminal 2 are most convenient for short connections, if the inbound flight is on time, you will easily make it if you proceed directly to the gate. Make sure to be checked through all the way to Bosnia. Usually eastbound flights over the Atlantic are getting in early anyway due to back winds during winter. So this should be in your favor. Of course, winter time has always the possibility of delays due to snow and other weather issues.

Hopefully you'll have a great trip! Don't worry, you will be fine!
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by 2035
Is it all on LH/UA? If so, you should be fine for connection. If it's close they'll meet you at the gate and transfer you - they may even delay the connecting flight by a few minutes.
If there is a delay in arriving, LH will look after you and put you on the first avaiable flight (direct or connecting) of any airline.
Baggage should make it to. I have done plenty of 35-40 min connects in MUC.
You'll be fine. Assuming that your "10:15 departure is a typo for "8:15", UA sells this as a single ticket:

United 8784
Operated by
Lufthansa
Airbus A340-300
08:15 PM MUC
10:20 AM
Next day
<<< connecting to >>>
United 8760
Operated by
Lufthansa
Avro RJ85 Avroliner
10:50 AM SJJ
12:15 PM

If you misconnent LH will take care of you. But, much more likely at MUC you'll be met at the gate by someone who will whisk you off to the next flight. Mrs. Milepig was actually delivered by car once (they had a little sign with her name on it).

So, assuming you're all on one ticket (single PNR) don't worry about it, sit back and relax, all will be fine.

Oh, welcome to FT.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 2:26 pm
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Your flight arrives early in the day so in the worst case scenario they could reroute you via VIE on OS.

I assume you have a US passport and dont need a schengen visa right?

Because if you wouldnt have it they cant let you stop twice in europe...
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 3:09 pm
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MUC issues are often discussed in our Germany forum. Let's move it there to see if you can get some added advice. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, TravelBuzz
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 12:12 am
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welcome to FlyerTalk Wilkins5555. MUC airport issues are discussed in this forum, but yours is a LH issue since you're flying LH thru MUC. therefor I found an even better place for your thread - the Lufthansa Forum. The guys over there are real specialists in LH operations and will provide you the best info possible. I am looking forward your contributions on FlyerTalk - your final destination is covered in the Europe forum btw

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Old Nov 22, 2007, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by wilkins5555
Is it possible that I can actually make a 35 connection on an international flight from Germany to Bosnia?
Yes
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 3:01 am
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I agree with earlier posters - MUC is specifically set up for short connections, and if nothing goes terribly wrong, the connections work almost every time.

One other thing to note - since you're arriving from a non-Schengen country (the US) and connecting to another non-Schengen country (Bosnia) you can just stay airside at MUC and don't have to go through immigration in Germany. This is a major time-saver.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by alex0683de
One other thing to note - since you're arriving from a non-Schengen country (the US) and connecting to another non-Schengen country (Bosnia) you can just stay airside at MUC and don't have to go through immigration in Germany. This is a major time-saver.
And there shouldn't be any security check either.

I had a scheduled 30-minute connection this week in MUC (Schengen to Schengen - similar to the OP since no passprt or security check involved). We arrived 15 minutes late at a bus stand and I still made the onward flight, which pushed back almost on time.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 3:17 am
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Nothing to worry about, MUC is one of the best, whatever happens you'll see your girlfriend this year
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 3:33 am
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I am also usually very nervous about these 35 min connections in MUC. However, so far they have always worked just fine !
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 8:52 am
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To add another data point, my father just returned from Korea, flying ICN-MUC-FRA, also with a 35 minute connection. No problem at all.
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Old Nov 29, 2007, 3:34 pm
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Most importantly, thank you to everyone for all the help. This is encouraging:

"Is it all on LH/UA? If so, you should be fine for connection. If it's close they'll meet you at the gate and transfer you - they may even delay the connecting flight by a few minutes. If there is a delay in arriving, LH will look after you and put you on the first avaiable flight (direct or connecting) of any airline.
Baggage should make it to. I have done plenty of 35-40 min connects in MUC."

My flight is all on United Airlines and Lufthansa. Here's my question, though. When you say they'll potentially meet me at the gate to transfer me if my flight's delayed, would they only do this if I mentioned it someone? Like a stewardess? Who would take care of something like this? Sorry if this is an obvious answer, my international flight experience is limited. Thanks again
Chris
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Old Nov 29, 2007, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by wilkins5555
Most importantly, thank you to everyone for all the help. This is encouraging:

"Is it all on LH/UA? If so, you should be fine for connection. If it's close they'll meet you at the gate and transfer you - they may even delay the connecting flight by a few minutes. If there is a delay in arriving, LH will look after you and put you on the first avaiable flight (direct or connecting) of any airline.
Baggage should make it to. I have done plenty of 35-40 min connects in MUC."

My flight is all on United Airlines and Lufthansa. Here's my question, though. When you say they'll potentially meet me at the gate to transfer me if my flight's delayed, would they only do this if I mentioned it someone? Like a stewardess? Who would take care of something like this? Sorry if this is an obvious answer, my international flight experience is limited. Thanks again
Chris
I am not sure how the UA to LH connections work, but with LH to LH there would be no need to mention this to anyone. LH will automatically have you and your connection on their "radar". From an earlier post I gather you are on the UA codeshare of an LH metal flight ?
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 2:17 pm
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60 Minute connection at MUC

Hi, I am about to take my first LH flight and would appreciate some advise. I have a one hour connection in MUC. Is this cutting it too close? I will be in F transatlantic and C in Europe. I have read that MUC is easier to transit than FRA, but would appreciate any information on Customs/immigration/security and gate locations. Will arriving in F help and how? I have both EU and US passports, so I can show my EU PP upon entry. I have a 5-1/2 hour connection on the inbound, so I can enjoy the First class terminal I am using 120k UA and the taxes and fees only came to $94 USD ^. I read somewhere else LH charges fuel surcharges, but was not biiled for them. Any advise would be appreciated.

LUFTHANSA 435
Depart:CHICAGO/OHARE 2:35 PM
Arrive:MUNICH 6:10 AM
Seat: 1A NONSTOP
Equip: 340
MP miles: ***** FIRST CLASS

LUFTHANSA 3452 *
Depart:MUNICH 7:10 AM
Arrive:BUDAPEST 8:30 AM
Seat :3D NONSTOP
Equip: CR2
MP miles: ***** CONNOISSEUR
* OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA CITYLINE GMBH


LUFTHANSA 3441
Depart:BUDAPEST 9:55 AM
Arrive:FRANKFURT 11:40 AM
Seat : 3F NONSTOP
Equip: 32S
MP miles: ***** CONNOISSEUR


LUFTHANSA 432
Depart:FRANKFURT 5:15 PM
Arrive:CHICAGO/OHARE 7:55 PM
Seat : 2A NONSTOP
Equip: 333
MP miles: ***** FIRST CLASS
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