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Old Sep 25, 2012, 3:27 pm
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No more "International Surcharge"

But "Fuel and Security Surcharge" is back!
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
But "Fuel and Security Surcharge" is back!
That's interesting, now which regulatory agency has slapped their wrists for that I wonder.
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 4:04 pm
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But LX is still charging "international surcharge" at least ex-UK.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 1:47 am
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It still does show no additional fee for ZRH-GVA (domestic flight) - "Internationaler Zuschlag: 0", and no fuel fee either.. are you sure they changed it back?
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 4:54 am
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LH now charging higher YQ charges for business & first class tickets

this applies to all tickets issued after 07 Aug 13. This will also apply to award tickets.
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 5:35 am
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NME, C Asia, & E. Africa: 170€
N. & C. America & S. Asia: 182€
Rest 192€

Regional and economy stay the same.
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 7:52 am
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As we know, fuel prices are subject to certain fluctuations, but did LH ever decrease the surcharge when the price for fuel on the market went down???
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by ex-koelner
As we know, fuel prices are subject to certain fluctuations, but did LH ever decrease the surcharge when the price for fuel on the market went down???
haha
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 8:02 am
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This thread goes back quite some years... just plot the changes (yes, they had a very few decreases over time).
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 8:05 am
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but I still can not understand why C/F Class not has the same YQ like Y Class.
Its rip off.
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by northernstar84
but I still can not understand why C/F Class not has the same YQ like Y Class.
Its rip off.
besides the YQ being a rip off in all cases, you have to lift more weight for a higher class passenger (extra baggage, extra catering, etc). one could argue that the smaller density of C/F pax offset this but I doubt it.
but what the heck, better return on a C class FD
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
This thread goes back quite some years... just plot the changes (yes, they had a very few decreases over time).

had some extra time today, so here it is:
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by kanor
had some extra time today, so here it is:
And interestingly enough- Jet fuel prices today are lower than they were in September 2008 (I just looked back five years):

Jun 2008 3.88 -
Jul 2008 3.89 0.21 %
Aug 2008 3.27 -15.83 %
Sep 2008 3.38 3.18 %
Oct 2008 2.32 -31.41 %
Nov 2008 1.88 -18.79 %
Dec 2008 1.38 -26.86 %
Jan 2009 1.47 6.84 %
Feb 2009 1.26 -14.30 %
Mar 2009 1.27 0.71 %
Apr 2009 1.37 7.97 %
May 2009 1.49 8.69 %
Jun 2009 1.81 21.30 %
Jul 2009 1.71 -5.15 %
Aug 2009 1.89 10.11 %
Sep 2009 1.75 -7.21 %
Oct 2009 1.94 11.03 %
Nov 2009 1.99 2.27 %
Dec 2009 1.98 -0.35 %
Jan 2010 2.05 3.69 %
Feb 2010 1.99 -3.07 %
Mar 2010 2.11 5.98 %
Apr 2010 2.24 6.40 %
May 2010 2.06 -8.02 %
Jun 2010 2.06 -0.24 %
Jul 2010 2.02 -1.90 %
Aug 2010 2.08 3.17 %
Sep 2010 2.11 1.49 %
Oct 2010 2.25 6.34 %
Nov 2010 2.32 3.34 %
Dec 2010 2.45 5.60 %
Jan 2011 2.62 6.77 %
Feb 2011 2.84 8.40 %
Mar 2011 3.13 10.07 %
Apr 2011 3.27 4.54 %
May 2011 3.09 -5.57 %
Jun 2011 3.05 -1.23 %
Jul 2011 3.13 2.76 %
Aug 2011 3.01 -3.93 %
Sep 2011 2.95 -1.99 %
Oct 2011 2.97 0.61 %
Nov 2011 3.05 2.70 %
Dec 2011 2.87 -5.68 %
Jan 2012 3.09 7.45 %
Feb 2012 3.21 3.89 %
Mar 2012 3.26 1.53 %
Apr 2012 3.23 -0.92 %
May 2012 2.97 -7.81 %
Jun 2012 2.68 -9.89 %
Jul 2012 2.89 7.91 %
Aug 2012 3.16 9.13 %
Sep 2012 3.19 1.11 %
Oct 2012 3.11 -2.63 %
Nov 2012 2.96 -4.73 %
Dec 2012 2.94 -0.68 %
Jan 2013 3.09 5.14 %
Feb 2013 3.22 4.11 %
Mar 2013 2.97 -7.74 %
Apr 2013 2.81 -5.42 %
May 2013 2.73 -2.96 %
Jun 2013 2.77 1.61 %

If you want there are a few tools to look at this:

http://www.indexmundi.com/commoditie...fuel&months=60

Even with IATA adjusting for the impact of the EUR you can see that prices are now lower than they were in 2007.

http://www.iata.org/publications/eco...velopment.aspx
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
And interestingly enough- Jet fuel prices today are lower than they were in September 2008 (I just looked back five years):

If you want there are a few tools to look at this:

http://www.indexmundi.com/commoditie...fuel&months=60

Even with IATA adjusting for the impact of the EUR you can see that prices are now lower than they were in 2007.

http://www.iata.org/publications/eco...velopment.aspx
updated the image
well the spikes have a good correlation between the curves but it clearly shows that YQ can hardly be called a tax. which is fine for revenue tickets but for awards ...
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 1:40 pm
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Here is a timely article that just appeared today in the SDZ (and corroborates oliver2002's price quotes):

Süddeutsche Zeitung
31. Juli 2013 16:56

Lufthansa
Erste-Klasse-Passagiere müssen mehr für Treibstoff zahlen


Reaktion auf steigende Kerosinpreise: Wer mit der Lufthansa in der Business-Klasse oder der ersten Klasse reist, zahlt künftig deutlich mehr.

Die Lufthansa bittet ihre Business- und First-Class-Passagiere wegen der steigenden Treibstoffkosten zur Kasse. Auf Langstreckenflügen werde der Kerosinzuschlag um 50 Euro angehoben, teilte Europas größte Airline mit. Die Preiserhöhung gelte ab dem 7. August für Reisen mit der Lufthansa, den Töchtern Swiss und Austrian sowie Brussels Airlines.

Abhängig von der Länge der Flugstrecke sollen die Treibstoffzuschläge bei Langstreckenflügen in der Business Class und der Ersten Klasse damit künftig zwischen 170 und 192 Euro liegen. Die Treibstoffzuschläge für Kunden der Economy Class auf Langstrecken würden nicht angehoben, teilte die Lufthansa mit. Ebensowenig würden die Zuschläge für Tickets auf Europastrecken in der Economy Class und in der Business Class erhöht.

Kerosin als Kostenfaktor

Bisher war die Höhe des Kerosin-Beitrags auf Interkontinentalflügen ausschließlich von der Entfernung abhängig. Mit der Reiseklasse führt die Fluglinie einen zusätzlichen Faktor bei der Kalkulation des Aufschlags ein. Die Frankfurter Airline ist mit der Idee nicht allein, sondern folgt einem Branchentrend - Rivalen wie die australische Qantas gingen jüngst ähnlich vor.

Für Fluggesellschaften sind die Kosten für Kerosin ein großer Kostenfaktor. Die Lufthansa will mit der Anhebung ihre rapide gestiegenen Tankkosten teilweise kompensieren. Allein von 2009 bis 2012 verdoppelte sich die Treibstoffrechnung des Konzerns auf 7,4 Milliarden Euro. Für dieses Jahr erwartet die Lufthansa eine Entlastung: Nach Angaben von Anfang Mai dürften die Ausgaben auf sieben Milliarden Euro sinken. Ob es bei der Kerosinprognose bleibt, wird sich bald zeigen: Am Freitag stellt die Lufthansa seinen Quartalszahlen vor.
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