HON "enhancements" getting closer [HON bonus reduced from 50% to 25%] [merged]
#91
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Additionally, HON should be awarded to everybody living in postal code 83126.
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#93
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How often are we gong to flogg this horse - there can not be much left of it as this argument seems to find its return over and over.
WHO CARES who pays - whether it is the "HON" himself or someone who deems it worthwhile paying for the tickets for the "HON" - it is just irrelevant other than that it involves some serious BIS - maybe pampered but still quite some amount of flying.
I would venture to say that there are only a limited number = % of the HON that have achieved it trough mileage runs - which is the underlying argument of your statement - the true road wariors etc etc .. Give me a break - that argument is simply stale - flying a lot is sometimes nothing other than means to do a job - but it certainly not the priviledge / perk that some posters want to see in it.
Actually I would bet most HON pay for their flights either directly for the ticket - or indirectly as their performance bonus is diminished by the chunk their flying takes out of their bottom line ...
Cheers
Thomas
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Cheers
Thomas
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Thank you andre1970!
I wasn't alluding to my or your pattern. But as you and TFM stated that this thread (or threat) is entirely about marking one's own claim, I reckon that RTW must have meant those three fare classes .
If it was for me ... yes, please include flying E,T,W,Z, award classes, and anything *A or QF ...
If it was for me ... yes, please include flying E,T,W,Z, award classes, and anything *A or QF ...
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FT poll anyone?
#97
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I think HON should be a real "honorary" level not linked to any $$$ spending. Hence, it should only be awarded to folks who clock 300,000 annual BIS miles in award O on LH metal. The miles for these awards need to be aquired through non-flying activity, proving that you are a really loyal M&M heavy user.
Additionally, HON should be awarded to everybody living in postal code 83126.
Additionally, HON should be awarded to everybody living in postal code 83126.
Meaning you have found a way to reduce the HON sample to 1 - namely yourself - I guess LH could reProgamme / Relaunch it as TFM instead....
Cheers
Thomas
Last edited by tcswede; Sep 6, 2007 at 3:18 pm
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...But where does this operetta end? Well, down the line, there are only 2 guys left, and one is complaining about the other! That guy will be the MonoHONist!^
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I think HON should be a real "honorary" level not linked to any $$$ spending. Hence, it should only be awarded to folks who clock 300,000 annual BIS miles in award O on LH metal. The miles for these awards need to be aquired through non-flying activity, proving that you are a really loyal M&M heavy user.
Additionally, HON should be awarded to everybody living in postal code 83126.
Additionally, HON should be awarded to everybody living in postal code 83126.
Let's see. I'll watch this movie BTW which of the two do you mean is the MonoHONist
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#103
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Let's see: 50K p.a. on FRA-SFO in C is 9 roundtrips (each ~5'600 )
So, how did you manage to end up with 150K miles only? Flying just to Japan, which is the most expensive route?
- ends up with 230'238 HON miles as a SEN
- ends up with 255'834 HON miles as a HON
So, how did you manage to end up with 150K miles only? Flying just to Japan, which is the most expensive route?
FRA-SFO in C for any big cooperation is 4.000 EUR minus taxes is 3.850 EUR.
To make it HON you need to clock 60.000 EUR - that is 16 flights or about 410.000 miles.
The current cityhopper pays 400 EUR for FRA-LHR in C and makes HON after 120 flights (revenue after tax is 300 EUR x 100 = 36.000 EUR) - HON treatment means 120 limo services at FRA which narrows down the 36K to 30.000 EUR.
I dont have an issue giving HON to the above long haul traveller (although he clocked only 410.000 miles) and taking it from the cityhopper (who clocked 600.000 miles but does only generate half the revenue).
To increase the number of posts - same applies to SEN. Generate 12.000 EUR revenue or get lost... :-)
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A lot of posts here are hung up on milage - please keep in mind that the 5.000 miles for European C is an artifical and random value. LH should award only miles flown (as e.g. NH does). That would help to get rid of some cheapo HONs... Plus it would easily bypass the IT problem (and I am sure weero agrees to that).
Plus the LH world become a much better place in terms of equality and fairness as I dont see any reason why someone connecting intra-Germany and paying (taxes excluded) the same price as someone flying out of FRA-SFO flyer needs to buy only four tickets to make SEN while the later needs five...
I am of the opinion that loyal customers should get upgraded if availability is given. 50.000-miles-voucher are a nice way to do so without giving up the very much appreciated Op-Ups-Only rule... (To be introduced after minimum milage is gone of course ).
Plus the LH world become a much better place in terms of equality and fairness as I dont see any reason why someone connecting intra-Germany and paying (taxes excluded) the same price as someone flying out of FRA-SFO flyer needs to buy only four tickets to make SEN while the later needs five...
I am of the opinion that loyal customers should get upgraded if availability is given. 50.000-miles-voucher are a nice way to do so without giving up the very much appreciated Op-Ups-Only rule... (To be introduced after minimum milage is gone of course ).
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Hence, about than a year ago, I approached my regional sales office in LAX and asked for a discounted fare (or relaxed fare rules) for my frequent LAX-MUC trips on LH. If granted, I'd have increased my travel and most likely made HON within 2 years.
They kindly laughed at me.
I kindly laughed back, stopped all my ticket payments and began to fly exclusively on awards.