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Hon Run Routing? [and other quick SEN/FTL qualification mileage runs on LX/LH/OS]

Hon Run Routing? [and other quick SEN/FTL qualification mileage runs on LX/LH/OS]

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Old Aug 3, 07, 5:31 am
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Originally Posted by Flying Lawyer View Post
This appears not to be optimized and it appears to have o/w and open jaws in it. I assume it is

MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-MUC
ZRH-DUS
DUS-ZRH-CDG-GVA-ZRH

I believe your TA should try:

MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-DUS-GVA-ZRH-CDG-GVA-ZRH-DUS-ZRH-GVA-MUC.

This combines

MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-GVA-MUC
ZRH-DUS-ZRH
DUS-GVA-ZRH-CDG-GVA-ZRH-DUS

Nice and clear return tickets. I haven't priced it, but it should be about 2*700 Euro plus about 400 SFR for the Ex-Switzerland ticket. This should be 24.000 miles before Bonus. However, 1400 Euro is not bad either for a big pile of status miles in a short period of time.
That is what I proposed to the TA originally as mentioned on page 2 in this thread. However, the system won't allow DUS-GVA-ZRH-CDG-GVA-ZRH-DUS, as it contains twice the same segment (GVA-ZRH).

My booking actually consists of two tickets:
MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-DUS
and
DUS-ZRH-CDG-GVA-ZRH-MUC
with the TA claiming there is a problem with MCT at CDG, therefore CDG-ZRH is not possible on the second ticket.
If I wanted to do it in 3 days instead of the 2 days I have, there would be no problems
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Old Aug 3, 07, 5:58 am
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Originally Posted by whiskey_sk View Post
That is what I proposed to the TA originally as mentioned on page 2 in this thread. However, the system won't allow DUS-GVA-ZRH-CDG-GVA-ZRH-DUS, as it contains twice the same segment (GVA-ZRH).

My booking actually consists of two tickets:
MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-DUS
and
DUS-ZRH-CDG-GVA-ZRH-MUC
with the TA claiming there is a problem with MCT at CDG, therefore CDG-ZRH is not possible on the second ticket.
If I wanted to do it in 3 days instead of the 2 days I have, there would be no problems
So why not change it to DUS - GVA - ZRH - CDG - GVA - ZRH - DUS? This avoids the problem mentioned. MCT can be an issue but as long as you are on seperate tickets it is your risk (a small risk considering that it is the same a/c).
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Old Aug 3, 07, 10:15 am
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Here is the result for routing according to http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...5&postcount=22 , 1507 EUR incl. taxes and incl. 90 EUR tip for the TA (if I decide to issue via the TA and not by phone in the US as suggested recently in another thread, may get cheaper even more). Still only 19k+whatever the L/E in economy brings+exec bonus, but can't fit more flights into the 2.5 days I have. Any airport hotel recommendations for DUS and ZRH?

day 1 06:55 MUC 08:10 GVA LX3679 1h15 Business (Z)
day 1 10:20 GVA 11:10 ZRH LX2807 0h00 Business (Z)
day 1 12:45 ZRH 14:05 VIE LX1578 3h45 Business (Z)
day 1 14:45 VIE 16:05 ZRH LX1579 1h20 Business (Z)

day 1 17:45 ZRH 19:10 DUS LX1026 1h25 Economy (E)

day 2 07:50 DUS 09:05 ZRH LX3633 0h00 Business (Z)
day 2 12:35 ZRH 13:55 CDG LX638 6h05 Business (Z)
day 2 15:05 CDG 16:20 ZRH LX639 0h00 Business (Z)
day 2 17:45 ZRH 19:10 DUS LX1026 4h05 Business (Z)

day 2 20:15 DUS 21:30 ZRH LX1027 1h15 Economy (L)

day 3 09:45 ZRH 10:30 GVA LX2804 0h00 Business (Z)
day 3 11:10 GVA 12:20 MUC LX3682 2h35 Business (Z)
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Old Aug 3, 07, 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by whiskey_sk View Post
Any airport hotel recommendations for DUS and ZRH?
The flyer of today should have someone at most airports - like the sailors in former times...
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Old Aug 3, 07, 1:55 pm
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ZRH has a nice a Hilton with a free bus and DUS has an Arabella Sheraton linked to the Terminal
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Old Aug 3, 07, 2:14 pm
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I'm just sat here doing the wife's MR for *S... target is 19,000 or more.

At the moment, it's all based on JSWISSUK / JSWISSDE

LHR-ZRH-MUC-ZRH-LHR
MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-GVA-MUC

I get the mileage out at 23,750 (inc. her 25% bonus), and the cost is ~GBP760. That's flying out and back over a Saturday/Sunday in August.
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Old Aug 3, 07, 2:37 pm
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now that I think of it, why not do just simply MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-GVA-MUC twice during a weekend, nice 22.000 miles before bonuses, no hassle. Probably will get a bit boring after some time, but why not to try.
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Old Aug 3, 07, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by whiskey_sk View Post
now that I think of it, why not do just simply MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-GVA-MUC twice during a weekend, nice 22.000 miles before bonuses, no hassle. Probably will get a bit boring after some time, but why not to try.
I'd rather do a FRA-SYD return in one go than to do all of this short haul stuff... I think OZ still has the SYD J return on offer for ca. 2500 with a oneway upgrade to F FRA-ICN thrown in for good measure.
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Old Aug 3, 07, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolTraveller View Post
JSWISSDE
MUC-GVA-ZRH-VIE-ZRH-GVA-MUC
Wonder how you got this priced since I checked class availability of J for all segments (ok) but it only prices me the trip at Z
Any hints what I have done wrong? Thanks!
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Old Aug 3, 07, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Rambuster View Post
I'd rather do a FRA-SYD return in one go than to do all of this short haul stuff... I think OZ still has the SYD J return on offer for ca. 2500 with a oneway upgrade to F FRA-ICN thrown in for good measure.
Can you manage it during Saturday/Sunday? What is the yield in miles on that trip?
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Old Aug 3, 07, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by whiskey_sk View Post
Can you manage it during Saturday/Sunday? What is the yield in miles on that trip?
42.148 status miles FRA-ICN-SYD return in J. Works out at about € 0,06 per status mile. (tax IIRC not included). However, be warned about OZ's J class on the 747....the seat might have been revolutionary in the 1980's ...


*** oh, and by the way it's no good as a HON run, only as a SEN run as you don't get HON miles on OZ ***
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Old Aug 3, 07, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by muc_flyer View Post
Wonder how you got this priced since I checked class availability of J for all segments (ok) but it only prices me the trip at Z
Any hints what I have done wrong? Thanks!
I think you have to call to get that routing; the fare basis JSWISSDE clearly allows that as a routing, but LH.com gets all silly and prices it in Z, and nothing else I've come across has enough sector fields to be able to price it all through. But the fare rule is absolutely explicit. So I'll call them and book the whole lot on the phone, and say adios for the wife.

Originally Posted by whisky_sk
Can you manage it during Saturday/Sunday? What is the yield in miles on that trip?
I did LHR-SIN-SYD-SIN-LHR over a weekend. Left work at 18:00 on Friday, went to LHR. Dep LHR at 22:00, arrive SYD at 05:50 +2 - time for breakfast and lunch on Bondi Beach with friends. Dep SYD 15:40 arrive LHR 05:55 +1, and went to work. 22,000 miles or so, and about 700 on SQ (IIRC).
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Old Aug 3, 07, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolTraveller View Post
I did LHR-SIN-SYD-SIN-LHR over a weekend. Left work at 18:00 on Friday, went to LHR. Dep LHR at 22:00, arrive SYD at 05:50 +2 - time for breakfast and lunch on Bondi Beach with friends. Dep SYD 15:40 arrive LHR 05:55 +1, and went to work. 22,000 miles or so, and about £700 on SQ (IIRC).
Similarly tht and I did in May this year AKL-LAX-LHR-HKG-AKL in a weekend (trip report), for even more miles at a much lower fare. We had half a day in London. tht suprised Mom on her birthday while I took a side trip to BHD

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Old Aug 3, 07, 7:53 pm
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another nice mr with sas (double m+m status-/ and bonus miles promotion, no sen/hon bonus) in c - valid until 08/31/07:

germany *for me haj*/cph/nrt/cph/germany
= 2.300 eur and 47.400 status + bonus miles = 48.4 eur / 1000 miles.

i`ll do it between 08/09 and 08/13.......
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Old Aug 3, 07, 10:45 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolTraveller View Post
I think you have to call to get that routing; the fare basis JSWISSDE clearly allows that as a routing, but LH.com gets all silly and prices it in Z, and nothing else I've come across has enough sector fields to be able to price it all through. But the fare rule is absolutely explicit. So I'll call them and book the whole lot on the phone, and say adios for the wife.
At least on LH.COM it is impossible to book LH codeshares with a LX number. This could be one source of the problem.
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