christianj

I just returned from a RT JFK-FRA in Business Class and I just do not understand what is going on with LH's catering these days. I want to preface this by saying I have been flying them for 30+ years in Business Class between the US and Europe and overall IMHO the catering has gone down hill to the point that it simply cannot get any worse. Surprisingly on my outbound the food was edible which gave me hope BUT on the return yesterday on LH 400 the Red Snapper was inedible! And don't get me started on the soup! Whoever came up with the idea a couple of years ago to serve soup prior to arrival should be fired! If you are going to serve cold soup at least make it a soup that is supposed to be cold.

I just do not understand what LH is doing! As a longtime Senator I am to the point that LH is my last choice from JFK/EWR to FRA due to the catering. SQ is now my first choice and if I need to be elsewhere in Europe I will avoid LH and pick Austrian, Swiss, UA or even LOT over LH. How can LH's catering be so bad when Austrian has some of the best food with Do&Co? It really is sad when an airline you own serves better food than your parent airline. Sadly I think LH doesn't really give a crap anymore because they feel they will get J class pax out of Europe regardless of what they serve. Or they believe that if they serve marginally more acceptable food than BA then that is all they need to do to be considered a 5 Star Skytrak airline...what a joke!

oliver2002

Business Class ex DEU

Nach dem Start
Menü
Vorspeisen
Feine Scheiben vom Kalbsroastbeef mit Coleslaw, Gewürztomate und Bärlauch
Meeresfrüchte-Oktopussalat mit Passe Pierre Algen und gegrillter Zucchini
Burratina mit Tomaten, Rucolasalat und Pesto
Salat
Blattsalate der Saison mit Gurke, Tomate und Kürbiskernölvinaigrette
Hauptspeisen
Tafelspitz mit Meerrettichsauce, Rahmwirsing und Kartoffeln
Gebratener Lachs, Blattspinat und Basmatireis
Buntes Gemüseragout mit Morchel-Kartoffelpüree
Käse und Dessert
Gouda, Mölltaler, Montagnolo und Vesperkäse mit Aprikosen-Senf-Chutney
Nach italienischer Tradition zubereitete Eisspezialität
Frühlingshafter Obstteller mit Mango, Melone und Kapstachelbeere

Vor der Landung
Soup & Salad
Flusskrebssuppe mit Tandoorigewürz
Salade Niçoise mit hellem Balsamicodressing
Dessert
Käse-Mandarinenkuchen
After Takeoff
Menu
Appetizers
Sliced Veal Roast Beef with Coleslaw, spiced Tomato and Wild Garlic
Seafood and Octopus Salad with Passe Pierre Seaweed and grilled Zucchini
Burratina with Tomatoes, Arugula Salad and Pesto
Salad
Seasonal Leaf Lettuce with Cucumber, Tomato and Pumpkin Seed Oil Vinaigrette
Main Courses
Prime boiled Beef with Horseradish Sauce, creamy Savoy Cabbage and Potatoes
Fried Salmon, Leaf Spinach and Basmati Rice
Mixed Vegetable Ragout with Morel and Potato Puree
Cheese and Dessert
Gouda, Mölltaler, Montagnolo and hearty Cheese presented with Apricot Mustard Chutney
Traditional Italian Ice Cream Delicacy
Seasonal Fruits with Mango, Melon and Physalis

Before Landing
Soup & Salad
Crayfish Soup seasoned with Tandoori Spice
Salade Niçoise with light Balsamic Dressing
Dessert
Cheesecake with Mandarins

oliver2002

First Class ex DEU
Variation von Vorspeisen
Kaviar mit den traditionellen Beilagen
Roastbeef-Salat Asia Style
Jakobsmuscheln, in Portwein geschmorter Chicorée, Artischockenpüree, Trüffelvinaigrette
Paprika-Ziegenkäsetörtchen auf Schwarzer Olivencrčme
Junge Blattsalate mit Wiesenkräutern, gegrillter Paprika und Karottenwürfeln, dazu helles Balsamico- oder Spanish Dressing
Sorbet
Boskoop Barrique Sorbet, auf Wunsch mit Gin verfeinert
Auswahl an Hauptspeisen
Rumpsteak mit Pfefferrahmsauce, glasiertem Kohlrabi und Kartoffelgratin
Seeteufel mit Shiitake-Pilzsud, Macadamia-Erbsenhummus
Spaghettini, Fenchel-Pecorinocrčme, Chili, Kapern, Rucola
Supręme vom Schwarzfederhuhn, Tomatenbutter, Mini-Zucchini, Bärlauch-Risotto
Vielfalt an Käse und Dessert
Le Cabrissac, Blue Stilton, Felsenkeller, Pont-l’Évęque und Chaource, Aprikosen-Senf-Chutney
Himbeer-Joghurt-Welle, Pistaziencrčmeeis, Rosenwasser
Schokoladencrémeux und Mangosorbet an Ananas-Gel mit Streuseln von exotischen Früchten und Kokos-Chantilly

Choice of Appetizers
Caviar with the traditional Garnishes
Scallops, Endive braised in Port Wine, mashed Artichoke and Truffles Vinaigrette
Goat Cheese Tartlet with Bell Pepper on Black Olive Cream
Fresh mixed Leaf Lettuce with Wild Herbs, grilled Bell Pepper and Carrot Cubes accompanied by light Balsamic or Spanish Dressing
Sorbet
Boskoop Barrique flavored with Gin upon your Request
Choice of Main Courses
Sirloin Steak with Peppercorn Cream Sauce, glazed Kohlrabi and Potato Gratin
Monkfish with Shiitake Stock, Macadamia Nut and Green Pea Hummus
Spaghettini, Fennel and Pecorino Cream, Chili, Capers and Arugul
Supręme of black-feathered Chicken, Tomato Butter, Mini Zucchini, Wild Garlic Risotto
Selection of Cheese and Dessert
Le Cabrissac, Blue Stilton, Felsenkeller, Pont-l’Évęque and Chaource, Apricot and Mustard Chutney
Raspberry and Yogurt Cake, Pistachio Ice Cream and Rosewater
Chocolate Crémeux and Mango Sorbet on Pineapple Jelly with exotic Fruit Crumbles and Coconut Chantilly

NewbieRunner

Menu

Appetizers

Prime cured Beef with White Cabbage Salad and Frankfurt Green Sauce
Smoked Tuna with Udon Noodle Salad, Miso Sauce and Sesame



Pumpkin Salad with Gorgonzola and Pumpernickel Salad
Seasonal Leaf Salad with Grape Seed Oil Vinaigrette



Main Courses
Braised Beef with Carrots, Ragout of Pea, Chickpea and Apricot accompanied by Parsnip Puree



Fried Red Snapper with red Thai Curry Sauce, Romanesco and Jasmine Rice
Penne Pasta with Vegetables and Pesto Sauce

Cheese and Dessert

Allgäu Wild Flower Cheese, Gouda, Goat Soft Cheese and Cream Cheese Tomato Basil garnished with Mango Peperoni Chutney
Traditional Italian Ice Cream Delicacy
Seasonal Fruits featuring Apple, Orange, Grapes and Grapefruit


The dessert I actually had wasn't on the menu.

Dinner

Back Filet of smoked Salmon with Carrot Fennel
Salad and Arugula
and
Breast of Corn-fed Poularde Tandoori, Basmati Rice
with Nut and creamy Spinach
or
Ravioli filled with Goat Cream Cheese accompanied
by Tomato Ragout and Vegetable Stock

Dessert
Apple Cake with whipped Cream



LH 498,542 01/18-02/18

NewbieRunner

Menu

Amuse-bouche



Choice of Appetizers

Caviar with the traditional Garnishes


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Roasted Tenderloin Slices and Zucchini filled with Cream Cheese and Tomato
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Sautéed White Salmon with Orange Sauce, Mango and Pepper Cubes
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Truffle Goat Cheese with Walnut and Tomato Halves
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Mixed seasonal Green Salad with dried Peach Wedges and green Beans presented with delicious Dressing



Choice of Main Courses

Seared marinated Tenderloin, roasted Andean Potato, Malbec Butter and sautéed Vegetables


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Stuffed Calamari with Fish Velouté, Portobello Mushrooms and sautéed Spinach with Sesame Seeds
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Chicken Breast glazed in Aceto, mashed Sweet Potato, creamy Passion Fruit Sauce, Broccoli and caramelized Pineapple
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Pumpkin and Amaretti Gnocchi in Arugula creamy Sauce with dehydrated Tomato Julienne

Selection of Cheese and Dessert

Edam, Camembert, Roquefort, Parmesan and Goat Cheese
_
Cheese Cake with Lemon and Strawberry Sauce


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Profiterol stuffed with Dulce de Leche and Chocolate

Night Snack

Variation of Tapas

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Good Morning

We will be pleased to serve you a delicious Breakfast at any time.

Cold and hot Specialties

Orange Juice
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Fruit Smoothie
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Fresh Fruit
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Muesli with Milk or Yogurt
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Yogurt with Berry Compote
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Smoked Salmon
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Spring Salami, Canadian Loin
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Brie and Gruyčre Cheese
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Scrambled Eggs freshly prepared upon your Request with your Choice of Bacon or Tomatoes
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A Selection of different Breads and Rolls, Croissant and Danish Pastry
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Butter, Jam, Honey and Nutella

LH 511 02/18-03/18

NewbieRunner

Some more recent shorthaul business offerings.

MAN-FRA (block time 1h45m, 06:20 departure) January 2018



FRA-MAN (block time 1h40m, 16:40 departure) March 2018



MAN-FRA (block time 1h40m, 09:20 departure) March 2018



FRA-MAN (block time 1h45m, 22:15 departure) April 2018



FRA-MUC (block time 0h55m, 13:15 departure) March 2018



MUC-FRA (block time 1h00, 19:00 departure) April 2018

FlightNurse

What was your actual flying time on the FRA-MUC-FRA flights, when we did it, it was 40 minutes in the air and the FA still served a meal and 2 drink passes.

worldclubber

Wheels up to touch down is usually around 30-35 minutes.

The even serve the same meal on NUE-MUC, which is usually under 20 minutes in the air (total, including climb and descend).

NewbieRunner

Western cuisine

Appetizers
Sliced Veal Roast Beef with Coleslaw, spiced Tomato and Wild Garlic



Seafood and Octopus Salad with Passe Pierre Seaweed and grilled Zucchini

Burratina with Tomatoes, Arugula Salad and Pesto

Salad
Seasonal Leaf Lettuce with Cucumber, Tomato and Pumpkin Seed Oil Vinaigrette



Main Courses
Prime boiled Beef with Horseradish Sauce, creamy Savoy Cabbage and Potatoes

Fried Salmon, Leaf Spinach and Basmati Rice



Cheese and Dessert
Gouda, Mölltaler, Montagnolo and hearty Cheese presented with Apricot Mustard Chutney

Peach Mousse with Verveine and Hazelnut Sponge

Seasonal Fruits featuring Mango, Melon and Physalis



Japanese Cuisine

Kobachi
Wakame with Gherkins, poached Octopus and sweet Vinegar

Zensai
Smoked Salmon Sushi, Japanese Omelette with Crabmeat, baked Mussel with Miso, Beef and Vegetable Roll, Apricot Compote, Tofu Salad with Prawns and Vegetables

Men
Udon with Chives, Wasabi and Soba Sauce

Dainomono
Chicken Leg braised in Japanese Mountain Pepper, Pumpkin, Taro Root and Bell Pepper served with steamed Japanese Rice

Suimono Wan
Suimono Wan with Cockle

Konomono
Marinated Cucumber and Radish

Kudamono
Fresh Fruit

Between meals at any time we serve beverages and light snacks

==

Western Breakfast

Fresh Fruit
Boiled Ham and Gouda Cheese
Scrambled Egg with Cheddar Cheese

Japanese Breakfast

Zensai
Japanese Omelette with grilled Roe, Red Bell Pepper Sauce and fried Chicken Breast accompanied by Poppyseed, Konnyaku and pickled Vegetables

Kobachi
Marinated Rape Blossoms in light Soy Sauce

Dainomono
Grilled Salmon with sweet Miso Paste, deepfried Chicken, Shiitake Mushrooms and Carrots accompanied by steamed Japanese Rice

Miso Shiru
Miso Soup

Kudamono
Fresh Fruit

NewbieRunner

Western Cuisine

Appetizers
Turkey Salad with Beets and Walnuts, Port Wine Prunes

Marinated King Prawn and Crab Meat with Pineapple Salsa



Composition of Vegetables Savories

Salad
Fresh Garden Salad with Cherry Tomato presented with delicious Dressing



Main Courses
Seared Tenderloin of Beef with Morel Sauce, Potato Gratin, Eringi Mushrooms and green Beans



Pan-fried Sea Bass with Truffle creamed Polenta, Balsamic Vinegar glazed Sauce with buttered Broccoli

Cheese and Dessert
Appenzeller, Cśur de Lion Camembert and Cheddar Cheese

Baked Cheese Cake with Berry Garnish



Fresh Fruit

Japanese Cuisine

Zensai
Bamboo Shoot with Miso, Shiratama Snapper Sushi, Shrimp Dumpling with Skewer, Teriyaki Beef, sweet boiled broad Bean, Leaves of Chrysanthemum with Wasabi

Kobachi
Boiled Hosta Plant with Baby Sardine

Men
Egg Somen Noodles

Dainomono
Grilled Chicken with Japanese Pepper Sauce Yukari with steamed Rice, mini Onions and Shiitake Mushrooms

Misoshiru
Japanese Shiyonai Wheat Gluten Miso Soup

Konomono
Chinese Cabbage with Yuzu, Chinese Yam with Perilla

Dessert
Fresh Fruit

Between meals at any time we serve beverages and light snacks

==

Dinner

Appetizer
Prosciutto with Melon, Mozzarella and Ripe Tomato

Main Course
Grilled Herb marinated Chicken Breast with Spring Blossom, Potato Dauphinoise and Dijon Mustard Sauce
Orecchiette Pasta with Broccoli, Cherry Tomatoes and Pancetta Sauce, Pecorino Cheese

Dessert
Fresh Fruit

Japanese Dinner

Zensai
Cabbage with Sesame, Shrimp, Japanese Omlette with Vegetables, Bamboo Shoots with Tofu and braised Clam

Dainomono
Rockfish Akauo with Saikyo Tomoji Sauce, steamed Rice with Nozawana, braised Tofu, Burdock and Carrot

Misoshiru
Dried Sea Lettuce Miso Soup

Konomono
Pickled Cabbage

Dessert
Fresh seasonal Fruit

SkyTeam777

Hahaha, but isn't the last flight an expedited supper service meaning that everything is served on one tray? Or is everything still placed on the table cloth without a tray? How does it work...one pass of the drink cart, then a refill with the meal service, then a refill with the dessert service/coffee/tea? Trying to determine how long the late night supper service takes and the service procedure. Am taking that last ORD-FRA flight and ordering an Asian Veg meal on top of that!

NewbieRunner

Assuming you are talking about Business class meals take a look at the current menus.

https://lh-menu.de/download/2018--05-06/C/431
On LH 403,417,419,431 the menu consists of appetizer, salad, main course and dessert

https://lh-menu.de/download/2018--05-06/C/433
On LH 413,415,433,435 there is no separate appetizer.

In Premium Economy it looks like the same menu is served.
https://lh-menu.de/download/2018--05-06/E/431P
LH 403,409,413,415,417,419,431,433,435,437

tuchop

Hi NewbieRunner, two questions:
1- How did you find the ex-EZE catering?
2- (off-topic) do they have any hot offerings during LH hours at the Star Alliance Lounge in EZE? Is there anything different for F class compared to J at the lounge? Did an LH staff escort you through EZE?

NewbieRunner

I usually prefer appetizers/starters to the main course on LH flights (both in F and C) but the beef main was actually very good. Had I not known that in Argentina steaks are usually served well-done I might have been surprised but I enjoyed it very much. Appetizers (I had two out of three, plus the salad) were ok but nothing exceptional. Scrambled eggs for breakfast were not up to the usual LH standard.

I was surprised I didn't take a single photo of the Star Alliance Lounge in EZE. I checked my FB page and found that I posted "A nice lounge but not much food or drinks". I don't remember any hot dishes. There was a section right at the back with larger chairs reserved for F passengers but apart from that there wasn't anything special. No escort was offered on the way to the lounge as far as I remember. We were supposed to be escorted to the gate from the lounge but I seem to have missed the group while I was in the bathroom, so I just made my own way to the gate.

SkyTeam777

Thanks so much! Yes, I saw that...just trying to figure out if drinks and full meal tray are served at once? or is it a drink run first, then a full meal tray service, then a separate dessert cart with drinks service? How many passes of the cart? or is it like the rest of the new LH service where it's all hand delivered?