Are all LH flights so warm?
May 10, 2019, 10:48 am
#92
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Sometimes it is even enough to mention that it’s too hot and shortly afterwards the FA comes back and says they lowered it. If not, the „mentioning“ earlier is a good foundation for a request later on like „don’t you think it’s still pretty hot in here ...“
May 10, 2019, 11:34 am
#93
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May 12, 2019, 4:39 am
#94
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Temperature makes all the difference. Last night, some people actually complained about the cabin being too cold, but the temperature was ideal for me. For the first time in a long while, I got some good sleep on a plane.
May 12, 2019, 9:20 am
#95
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Aug 1, 2019, 3:11 pm
#96
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We carry portable (5-6 inch) USB fans. I can deal with a warmer cabin but I need moving air!
Our LH FRA-IAH last summer (Biz upper level) was surprisingly comfortable. I had feared the hot cabins I’ve read much about. We have an A330 AUS to FRA and back coming up in a few weeks. Hoping for the best.
Our LH FRA-IAH last summer (Biz upper level) was surprisingly comfortable. I had feared the hot cabins I’ve read much about. We have an A330 AUS to FRA and back coming up in a few weeks. Hoping for the best.
Last edited by Kensterfly; Aug 1, 2019 at 3:12 pm Reason: Edit
Aug 1, 2019, 8:52 pm
#97
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We carry portable (5-6 inch) USB fans. I can deal with a warmer cabin but I need moving air!
Our LH FRA-IAH last summer (Biz upper level) was surprisingly comfortable. I had feared the hot cabins I’ve read much about. We have an A330 AUS to FRA and back coming up in a few weeks. Hoping for the best.
Our LH FRA-IAH last summer (Biz upper level) was surprisingly comfortable. I had feared the hot cabins I’ve read much about. We have an A330 AUS to FRA and back coming up in a few weeks. Hoping for the best.
Aug 3, 2019, 12:12 pm
#98
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When a pax asks for a change in temps, the tendency for flight attendants seems to be to make a major change. If I ask for them to cool the cabin down a bit, they may drop the temp several degrees, which suddenly makes the cabin much cooler, kicking off complaints that the cabin is too cold. Then they crank the temp up 8-10 degrees and make it sweltering. A little dab will do you. Sometimes, just a tweak of a couple of degrees will make it more comfortable without triggering complaints.
Last summer, I was prepared for a hot cabin on an A380 FRA to IAH. I wore a lightweight tropical shirt and khakis but had a pair of nice bermuda shorts in my backpage. Fortunately, I did not have to change clothes. The cabin was comfortable, if not quite a cool as I would have preferred.
Last summer, I was prepared for a hot cabin on an A380 FRA to IAH. I wore a lightweight tropical shirt and khakis but had a pair of nice bermuda shorts in my backpage. Fortunately, I did not have to change clothes. The cabin was comfortable, if not quite a cool as I would have preferred.
Aug 3, 2019, 3:27 pm
#99
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When a pax asks for a change in temps, the tendency for flight attendants seems to be to make a major change. If I ask for them to cool the cabin down a bit, they may drop the temp several degrees, which suddenly makes the cabin much cooler, kicking off complaints that the cabin is too cold. Then they crank the temp up 8-10 degrees and make it sweltering. A little dab will do you. Sometimes, just a tweak of a couple of degrees will make it more comfortable without triggering complaints.
Last summer, I was prepared for a hot cabin on an A380 FRA to IAH. I wore a lightweight tropical shirt and khakis but had a pair of nice bermuda shorts in my backpage. Fortunately, I did not have to change clothes. The cabin was comfortable, if not quite a cool as I would have preferred.
Last summer, I was prepared for a hot cabin on an A380 FRA to IAH. I wore a lightweight tropical shirt and khakis but had a pair of nice bermuda shorts in my backpage. Fortunately, I did not have to change clothes. The cabin was comfortable, if not quite a cool as I would have preferred.
Note: These two tribes are often referred to as 'men' and 'women'.
Aug 4, 2019, 6:31 am
#100
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I actually make quite an effort to explain to them that it is a slight reduction that most people would probably benefit from and have seen some good results.
Aug 4, 2019, 6:42 am
#101
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Perhaps instead of this error-prone ad-hoc approach to setting temps, everyone could indicate what they regard as an ideal temp on the LH app.
Responses could be weighted so that people with higher fare classes or status have a higher weighting. You then sum all the responses (e.g. x0.w0 + x1.w1 + ... xn.wn) and divide by #pax .
Note: x0 etc should be entered as a delta (difference) between the median/mean temp request across all the pax, so that it's negative for those wanting temps below avg and positive for those wanting temps above. Otherwise you could get a higher status pax wanting a lower temp producing a higher result than a low status pax wanting a high temp.
OK, Herr Spohr. The ball is in your court.
Responses could be weighted so that people with higher fare classes or status have a higher weighting. You then sum all the responses (e.g. x0.w0 + x1.w1 + ... xn.wn) and divide by #pax .
Note: x0 etc should be entered as a delta (difference) between the median/mean temp request across all the pax, so that it's negative for those wanting temps below avg and positive for those wanting temps above. Otherwise you could get a higher status pax wanting a lower temp producing a higher result than a low status pax wanting a high temp.
OK, Herr Spohr. The ball is in your court.
Aug 5, 2019, 1:51 am
#102
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The battle for the Thermostat: how temperature affect productivity. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0216362
So LH is doing us a favor and increasing productivity!!!
Abstract
This paper studies differences in the effect of temperature on cognitive performance by gender in a large controlled lab experiment (N = 543). We study performance in math, verbal and cognitive reflection tasks and find that the effects of temperature vary significantly across men and women. At higher temperatures, women perform better on a math and verbal task while the reverse effect is observed for men. The increase in female performance in response to higher temperature is significantly larger and more precisely estimated than the corresponding decrease in male performance. In contrast to math and verbal tasks, temperature has no impact on a measure of cognitive reflection for either gender. Our findings suggest that gender mixed workplaces may be able to increase productivity by setting the thermostat higher than current standards.
Aug 6, 2019, 1:20 am
#104
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I am German and yet on night flights I figured that the temperatures are way to hot on LH flights.
At home I sleep with open windows and the temperature in the sleeping room can easily fall down under 17 degrees. In summer we use a portable AC as well to cool down the room before we go to sleep. But we don't use it while we sleep. Too noisy and the constant air stream in the room is also annoying.
On the flights it is a bit of cultural issue. Europeans are not really used to ACs and prefer it a bit warmer. Hence the 22/23 degrees temperature.
At night the Europeans like it a bit cooler, but only when they sleep.
So while we sleep, those ladies who are keeping the watch or providing us some water every now and then, sit around in the galley reading magazines or chat.
When going to the bathrooms, I reckognized they always wear jackets or else over their blouses and they seem to freeze. So they increase the room temperature.
And this is why we all feel too warm and don't sleep well.
On top of it comes the massive meals and alcohol consumption on board. While we want to sleep our digestion is in full working mood. Creating a lot of energy. Another reason why we feel hot.
I don't eat anymore on board if I want to go to sleep real soon. Alcohol is also no option for me. It is an urban legend that a beer or glass of wine let's you sleep better.
By the way, at home you also don't have a big meal 10 minutes before you go to sleep. Think about it.
At home I sleep with open windows and the temperature in the sleeping room can easily fall down under 17 degrees. In summer we use a portable AC as well to cool down the room before we go to sleep. But we don't use it while we sleep. Too noisy and the constant air stream in the room is also annoying.
On the flights it is a bit of cultural issue. Europeans are not really used to ACs and prefer it a bit warmer. Hence the 22/23 degrees temperature.
At night the Europeans like it a bit cooler, but only when they sleep.
So while we sleep, those ladies who are keeping the watch or providing us some water every now and then, sit around in the galley reading magazines or chat.
When going to the bathrooms, I reckognized they always wear jackets or else over their blouses and they seem to freeze. So they increase the room temperature.
And this is why we all feel too warm and don't sleep well.
On top of it comes the massive meals and alcohol consumption on board. While we want to sleep our digestion is in full working mood. Creating a lot of energy. Another reason why we feel hot.
I don't eat anymore on board if I want to go to sleep real soon. Alcohol is also no option for me. It is an urban legend that a beer or glass of wine let's you sleep better.
By the way, at home you also don't have a big meal 10 minutes before you go to sleep. Think about it.
Aug 6, 2019, 1:41 am
#105
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So while we sleep, those ladies who are keeping the watch or providing us some water every now and then, sit around in the galley reading magazines or chat.
When going to the bathrooms, I reckognized they always wear jackets or else over their blouses and they seem to freeze. So they increase the room temperature.
And this is why we all feel too warm and don't sleep well.
When going to the bathrooms, I reckognized they always wear jackets or else over their blouses and they seem to freeze. So they increase the room temperature.
And this is why we all feel too warm and don't sleep well.