New M&M rules as of 01/08/2004
Mar 12, 2004, 3:30 am
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: VIE
Programs: M&M SEN
Posts: 442
New M&M rules as of 01/08/2004
Hi,
just happened to read the new Miles&More rules on www.miles-and-more.com. They are valid as of 1st Aug. this year and will bring severe changes in both the accrual and redemption section of M&M.
Just a few highlights:
- accrual depending on class of booking (Y, B receive more miles, T only 125 miles within europe)
- status miles calculated from actual miles flown
- 2 senator voucher each time you qualify for senator (no more 50.000-jumps)
- reduction for award miles needed (e.g. Europe-Australia 100.000/160.000/200.000)
- no more upgrades from T/S/W-class; upgrades from B->F more expensive.
What do you reckon? Is this a major blow to the Programme?
just happened to read the new Miles&More rules on www.miles-and-more.com. They are valid as of 1st Aug. this year and will bring severe changes in both the accrual and redemption section of M&M.
Just a few highlights:
- accrual depending on class of booking (Y, B receive more miles, T only 125 miles within europe)
- status miles calculated from actual miles flown
- 2 senator voucher each time you qualify for senator (no more 50.000-jumps)
- reduction for award miles needed (e.g. Europe-Australia 100.000/160.000/200.000)
- no more upgrades from T/S/W-class; upgrades from B->F more expensive.
What do you reckon? Is this a major blow to the Programme?
Mar 12, 2004, 5:02 am
#2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Luxembourg
Programs: LH Senator
Posts: 256
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- status miles calculated from actual miles flown
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I can't find any information on this point. Where have you seen that. The new mileage calculator appears to calculate it the "old-fashioned" way.
Mar 12, 2004, 5:31 am
#3
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: LH SEN, SPG Gold(SCI Gold), Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,451
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by davidcito:
Hi,
just happened to read the new Miles&More rules on www.miles-and-more.com. They are valid as of 1st Aug. this year and will bring severe changes in both the accrual and redemption section of M&M.
Just a few highlights:
- accrual depending on class of booking (Y, B receive more miles, T only 125 miles within europe)
- status miles calculated from actual miles flown
- 2 senator voucher each time you qualify for senator (no more 50.000-jumps)
- reduction for award miles needed (e.g. Europe-Australia 100.000/160.000/200.000)
- no more upgrades from T/S/W-class; upgrades from B->F more expensive.
What do you reckon? Is this a major blow to the Programme?</font>
Hi,
just happened to read the new Miles&More rules on www.miles-and-more.com. They are valid as of 1st Aug. this year and will bring severe changes in both the accrual and redemption section of M&M.
Just a few highlights:
- accrual depending on class of booking (Y, B receive more miles, T only 125 miles within europe)
- status miles calculated from actual miles flown
- 2 senator voucher each time you qualify for senator (no more 50.000-jumps)
- reduction for award miles needed (e.g. Europe-Australia 100.000/160.000/200.000)
- no more upgrades from T/S/W-class; upgrades from B->F more expensive.
What do you reckon? Is this a major blow to the Programme?</font>
http://www.miles-and-more.com/mam/de...049741,00.html shows the old way too, but ONLY on M&M integrated carriers and UA!
[This message has been edited by peter42 (edited Mar 12, 2004).]
Mar 12, 2004, 5:54 am
#5
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: BCT. Formerly known as attorney28
Programs: LH HON,BA GGL GfL,Hyatt LT Glob,Mrtt LT P,Hilt LT D,IC Amb,Acc P,GHA Tit,LHW Strlg,Sixt/Av/Hz D/Pres
Posts: 6,825
Lufthansa is basically making the whole thing a lot more complicated and making it really hard to earn miles or use upgrades on bargain fares. This comes close to a "miles-per-dollar" model. I somewhat understand what they are trying to do from a business perspective, but it just really complicates things...with the different booking classes, etc. And it makes bargain-hunting more unattractive.
I think this really favors people who have stocked up on miles and makes it harder to earn miles with flights for which you paid yourself in the future.
Overall, I will have to look deeper into it, but there are some things I find annoying, especially how it is so much harder for LH people to receive and use upgrades, while UA, with which LH has reciprocity agreements, gives its top tier people many more upgrades which they can use on LH.
I am actually considering canceling an award I had gotten for my parents and instead just buying the ticket, since redemption prices have actually gone down slightly.
[This message has been edited by attorney28 (edited Mar 12, 2004).]
I think this really favors people who have stocked up on miles and makes it harder to earn miles with flights for which you paid yourself in the future.
Overall, I will have to look deeper into it, but there are some things I find annoying, especially how it is so much harder for LH people to receive and use upgrades, while UA, with which LH has reciprocity agreements, gives its top tier people many more upgrades which they can use on LH.
I am actually considering canceling an award I had gotten for my parents and instead just buying the ticket, since redemption prices have actually gone down slightly.
[This message has been edited by attorney28 (edited Mar 12, 2004).]
Mar 12, 2004, 6:08 am
#6
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: CH / D
Programs: Amex, Avis, BA, BD, CX, FS, Hertz, HH, IC, LH, NH, RC, RCCL, Sixt, SPG, SQ, UA
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by davidcito:
- reduction for award miles needed (e.g. Europe-Australia 100.000/160.000/200.000)
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- reduction for award miles needed (e.g. Europe-Australia 100.000/160.000/200.000)
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All reductions in C and Y and for F it remained the same. ****!