LondonElite

Apologies - it's only in German, but prices should be clear to make out.

Lufthansa First Class
- Sensationspreise ab Kairo -


Generelle Information:
First Class zum Sonderpreis! Wenn Sie sich ein besonderes Erlebnis zum sensationellen Preis gönnen möchten, dann empfehlen wir Ihnen, das Tarifgefälle zwischen Deutschland und Ägypten auszunützen. Auf diese Weise können Sie 70% und mehr gegenüber den deutschen Preisen einsparen. Nebenbei können Sie auch viele Statusmeilen sammeln und so preiswert Ihren Senator oder FTL-Status errreichen oder verlängern.
Beispiele (alle Flüge mit der Lufthansa in First Class):

Shanghai Frankfurt – Shanghai – Frankfurt ca. 9.000.- Euro
Kairo – Frankfurt – Shanghai – Frankfurt – Kairo 2.439.- Euro

Hong Kong Frankfurt – Hong Kong – Frankfurt ca. 8.500.- Euro
Kairo – Frankfurt – Hong Kong – Frankfurt – Kairo 2.499.- Euro

Bangkok Frankfurt – Bangkok – Frankfurt ca. 7.500.- Euro
Kairo – Frankfurt – Bangkok – Frankfurt – Kairo 2.169.- Euro

Weitere Destinationen (alle Preise in First-Class):
Jakarta 2.439.- Euro / Singapur 2.299.- Euro / Manila 2.449.- Euro / Peking 2.439.- Euro

Der Preishammer:
Delhi 1.399.- Euro / Bombay 1.399- Euro
Alle Preise Stand 08.01.2004 – Endpreise inkl. aller Steuern, Versandkosten und Servicegebühr.
Gerne bieten wir Ihnen auch Flüge in der Business-Class an.

Achtung:
- Sie müssen die Reise tatsächlich in Kairo beginnen, so daß die Kosten für den Flug nach Kairo noch hinzugerechnet werden müssen.
- Es ist sowohl auf dem Hin, als auch auf dem Rückflug ein Stopover in Frankfurt erlaubt, d.h. Sie können einen Wochenendausflug nach Kairo unternehmen, den Frankfurt – Asien – Frankfurt Flug zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt machen und wiederum später das Teilstück Frankfurt – Kairo als Zubringer zu Ihrem nächsten Fernflug nutzen.
- Flugplanbedingt müssen Sie teilweise eine längeren Aufenthalt in Frankfurt in Kauf nehmen, da die Maschine aus Kairo schon am frühen Morgen ankommt:
Flugzeiten (LH): Cairo – Frankfurt 02.40 – 06.10
- Als Miles & More Mitglied können Sie mit diesen Tarifen dreifache Statusmeilen sammeln, sie erhalten z.B. 35.382 Statusmeilen für den Flug nach Bombay (Delhi 33.714 / Singapur 49.212 / Hong Kong 45.018 / Peking 39.930 / Shanghai 43.860 / Manila 49.290 / Jakarta 52.350). Wenn Sie schon Statuskunde sind, erhalten Sie noch zusätzlich 25% mehr Meilen auf diese Gutschrift.
- Die günstigen Tarife gelten nur zu ausgewählten asiatischen Zielorten.
- Keine Vorausbuchungsfrist, Mindest- und Maximalaufenthalt. Umbuchung (Datum) innerhalb der Ticketgültigkeit kostenlos. Nicht angeflogene Tickets sind abzgl. einer Bearbeitungsgebühr in Höhe von 250.- Euro erstattbar.
- Kreditkartenzahlung möglich.
- Angebot nicht zeitlich befristet, wir empfehlen Ihnen trotzdem schnell zu buchen, da Lufthansa diese Preise jederzeit erhöhen oder den Verkauf einstellen kann. Auch aufgrund von Wechselkursveränderungen können diese Preise schwanken, Preisgarantie besteht erst nach Ticketausstellung!!

Weitere Informationen:
Destinations Touristik GmbH / Salzstrasse 3 / 87435 Kempten
Tel: 0831-540250 / Fax: 0831-202649 / [email protected]

gunnar

So if they can book (and issue?) F tickets at ex-CAI prices can they also book RTW tickets ex-CAI?

airoli

Last year, I could personally book these fares right on the LH website and had the ticket issued through the local LH office here in Zurich without problems.

So if the Vorne-sitzen folks can do it, I suppose we can (again) do that ourselves as well? No need to pick up the tickets in Egypt.

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truly yours. airOli.
March 1st 2004: Morgestraich Do!

ahrz

... and here is the nice "translation" from Google

Lufthansa roofridge Class - sensation prices starting from Cairo - general information: Roofridge Class to the special price! If you liked yourselves to goennen a special experience at the sensational price, then we recommend to you to use the tariff downward gradient between Germany and Egypt. In this way you can save to 70% and more in relation to the German prices. Besides you can collect also many status miles and extend so inexpensive its senator or FTL status errreichen or. Examples (all flights with Lufthansa in roofridge Class): Shanghai Frankfurt? Shanghai? Frankfurt approx. 9,000. - Euro Cairo? Frankfurt? Shanghai? Frankfurt? Cairo 2,439. - Euro Hong Kong Frankfurt? Hong Kong? Frankfurt approx. 8,500. - Euro Cairo? Frankfurt? Hong Kong? Frankfurt? Cairo 2,499. - Euro Bangkok Frankfurt? Bangkok? Frankfurt approx. 7,500. - Euro Cairo? Frankfurt? Bangkok? Frankfurt? Cairo 2,169. - Euro further destinationen (all prices in roofridge Class): Jakarta 2,439. - Euro/Singapore 2,299. - Euro/Manila 2,449. - Euro/Peking 2,439. - Euro the price hammer: Delhi 1,399. - Euro/Bombay 1.399 euro all prices conditions 08.01.2004? End prices inclusive all taxes, forwarding expenses and service fee. Gladly we offer also flights to you in the Business Class. Note: - you must actually begin the journey in Cairo, so that the costs of the flight must be still included to Cairo. - it is both on, and on the return flight a Stopover in Frankfurt permits, i.e.. They can undertake a week final trip to Cairo, Frankfurt? Asia? Frankfurt flight a later time make and again later the section Frankfurt? Cairo as feeders to your next fernflug use. - flight plan conditionally you must partly take to longer stay in Frankfurt in purchase, since the machine from Cairo already arrives on the early morning: Flying times (LH): Cairo? Frankfurt 02.40? 06.10 - When Miles & More member can collect you with these tariffs three-way status miles, them received e.g. 35,382 status miles for the flight after Bombay (Delhi 33,714/Singapore 49,212/Hong Kong 45,018/Peking 39,930/Shanghai 43,860/Manila 49,290/Jakarta 52,350). If you are already status customer, keep to 25% more miles still additional on this credit note. - the favorable tariffs apply only to selected asiatic destinations. - no Vorausbuchungsfrist, mindest and maximum stay. Transfer posting (date) within the ticket validity free of charge. Approached tickets are not abzgl. a handling charge at a value of 250. - Euro erstattbar. - credit card payment possible. - do not recommend offer temporally limited, we you nevertheless fast to book, since Lufthansa can increase these prices at any time or stop the sales. Also due to rate of exchange changes these prices can vary, price guarantee exist only after ticket exhibition!! Further information: Destinations tourism GmbH/salt road 3/87435 Kempten Tel: 0831-540250/fax: 0831-202649/Info@vorne sitzen.de

LondonElite

Ha ha ha!

I have spoken to Vorne Sitzen a number of times and their english is very good so don't be shy to call them.

Gaucho100K

Yes, but unless Im missing something, you still need to begin the journey in CAI.

airoli

Gaucho: Correct.

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truly yours. airOli.
March 1st 2004: Morgestraich Do!

TRESY

Airoli,

Maybe I am doing this wrong, but I went to LH site and punched in CAI-BKK dep 4/4/04, return 21/4/04 using both Germany Domicile and UK domicil. Price was just over €8000 for Germany and £5000 for UK. I tried Egypt domicile but it came up with a message referring me to LH phone.

Is this how you get those cheap prices?

airoli

You needed to go to lufthansa.com.eg to book, but I've just checked and the interface is no longer there.

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truly yours. airOli.
March 1st 2004: Morgestraich Do!

DELHOPPER

You guys did not learn it. Do not talk here about these offers otherwise it will be over soon again! Like the other nice country where the offers have just stopped because of Flyertalk. It piXXes me off.....

LondonElite

LH offers these prices from CAI for a reason.

BA offers similar deals from LIS.

I seriously doubt whether LH's fares marketing division is influenced by FTers taking advantage of published lower fares.

There are no tricks here. There is no hidden city ticketing. No back to backs. No convoluted routings.

Call Vorner Sitzen if you don't believe me.

Patron

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[This message has been edited by Patron (edited Jan 22, 2004).]

Patron

Let me start a little bit away from your statement:

As you know, Meilensammler creates a web page where he has a lot to offer. But do you find the fares we are talking about right now, on his page? My guess is: No.

Scrolling down on this page, you will find space for ordering the newsletter for free. Within this newsletter you will find special offers, which are not available on their web-page.

My next question is: Why does a TA not promote one of his most attractive fares, especially if they are published (should be also available from other sources like tcswede’s TA) on his web-page? There must be a reason other than lack of time/laziness/technical difficulties and so on.

Seriously: I personally had the pleasure to meet up with Meilensammler in person, and I also one of his satisfied customers (maybe you realised that the only customer loyalty card I am announcing in my profile is Destinations Card) like many others here. It is his business to decide which channel he uses to promote his company and every member has that pleasure to decide if he likes to share these offer on a public board. It goes without saying, that this well within our house rules, although to post or not to post is diverted.

I am pretty sure the we can agree, that it is not in LH’s interest that every valued first class passenger flying to BKK starts his journey at CAI. But before someone changes from a “maybe” traveller to someone finally buys the ticket can be a long journey (Just as a matter of curiosity: Why do you think is for a “newbe” much more difficult to buy a RWSTAR in Cairo than for an established customer, given both use the same agent?) IMO Meilensammler and all the others who promote such sensational fares (DELHOPPER I think I know about the other country you are talking about!) have a tough job in deciding how long they put a reservation on hold, how many passenger originating from CAI they put on one plane, etc. If there are too many, this offer may be pulled out sooner, than later. And keep all your fingers cross that LH does not pull out First Class on CAI-FRA, as there is a call for compensation.

Thanks for reading!

[This message has been edited by Patron (edited Jan 22, 2004).]

bertheike

That´s not right !
The INDA fare is higher !
Der Preishammer:
Delhi 1.399.- Euro / Bombay 1.399- Euro
Alle Preise Stand 08.01.2004 – Endpreise inkl. aller Steuern, Versandkosten und Servicegebühr.
That is the regular F class ( does not work over Germany ( to many miles ) and HIP check )
The special is 15500 EGP which is around 2020 Euro excluding taxes and fees!!!!
and something more important ! This ticket may only be issued SITI ( in Egypt )
See the following rule
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31MAR 04.


SITI TRANSACTIONS PERMITTED. SOTO/SITO/SOTI TRANSACTIONS
NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
PTA/T.O.D ARE NOT ALLOWED.

02+FO2FRT 15500 F

F fullfare 8011 F

MumbaiDan

Thank you Patron, def. you got the point and it is a pleasure to see that someone experienced is moderating this Board.

Can you please remove or delete the post from londonelite and content of it. Or maybe ask meilensammler if he is ok with it having his name and confidential newsletter shown in public?

I have seen what threats LH used against TA's in connection with the 'other' country. It was not funny.

Taking this into consideration I do not believe that LH finds this board funny either.

Lodnon Elite: Regarding BA's Portugal Fares - This is a very different story as BA is selling special fares (with quiet some restrictions and short ticket validity, not a year) in F to selected destinations in many countries of the world, not only Portugal.

For example in India they are selling A class tickets for 2200 Euros return from Chennai to anywhere in Europe at the moment just to promote their empty F Class Cabin (for a short period). But you just do not get a one year valid unrestricted ticket from BA for such a fare. So do not compare apples with peas.