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Maximum Size of Checked Luggage (Weight Concept) or: Would you check a TV?

Maximum Size of Checked Luggage (Weight Concept) or: Would you check a TV?

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Old Jan 22, 07, 8:54 am
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Maximum Size of Checked Luggage (Weight Concept) or: Would you check a TV?

Question 1:
Flying LEJ-FRA-BRU with LH in Y. Am SEN. I searched the LH website and cannot find any size limitations of checked luggage when the weight concept applies. Are there any?

Question 2:
Would you check a 32'' flatscreen TV on above itinerary? The box is relatively large (96x40x72 cm), but it is not too heavy (probably less than 20 kg). I wonder about theft and how careful the bags are handled... Alternative would be to send it with DHL for ~EUR 50.

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Old Jan 22, 07, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by SmilingBoy View Post
Question 1:
Question 2:
Would you check a 32'' flatscreen TV on above itinerary? The box is relatively large (96x40x72 cm), but it is not too heavy (probably less than 20 kg). I wonder about theft and how careful the bags are handled... Alternative would be to send it with DHL for ~EUR 50.

Thanks for any advice!

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I would not check it and it is obviously too heavy and huge to take it as a carry on. Send it by DHL or one of the competitors to make sure that it arrives savely. I would cover insurance for that. If you check it, it will for sure get damaged because luggage is the most poorly handled cargo ever. And it's just insured for round about 20 Euro per kilo, so assuming the weight is 20 kg makes
20 kg x 20 Euro/kg = 400 Euro (the amount you get from LH when it gets lost or destroyed).. I guess the mentioned TV cost a lot more...
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Old Jan 22, 07, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by supermasterphil View Post
I would not check it and it is obviously too heavy and huge to take it as a carry on. Send it by DHL or one of the competitors to make sure that it arrives savely. I would cover insurance for that. If you check it, it will for sure get damaged because luggage is the most poorly handled cargo ever. And it's just insured for round about 20 Euro per kilo, so assuming the weight is 20 kg makes
20 kg x 20 Euro/kg = 400 Euro (the amount you get from LH when it gets lost or destroyed).. I guess the mentioned TV cost a lot more...
Yes, these were my concerns. I guess if I put in a few bricks to bring it to 40 kg, at least it would be 800 Euros :-)

Just for the record though, does anybody know the answer to question 1?

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Old Jan 22, 07, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by SmilingBoy View Post
Am SEN. I searched the LH website and cannot find any size limitations of checked luggage when the weight concept applies. Are there any?
AFAIK, there are no specific limitations in terms of # of pieces or their size, when the weigh system applies.

Originally Posted by SmilingBoy
Would you check a 32'' flatscreen TV on above itinerary? The box is relatively large (96x40x72 cm), but it is not too heavy (probably less than 20 kg).

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8.3.1. You must not include in your Baggage:

8.3.1.3. items which are reasonably considered by us to be unsuitable for carriage because they are dangerous, unsafe or by reason of their weight, size, shape or character, or which are fragile or perishable having regard to, among other things, the type of aircraft being used. Information about unacceptable items is available from us or the travel agency upon request.

8.3.4. We are not liable for any items referred to in 8.3.1. and 8.3.2. if these, despite being prohibited, are deliberately included in your baggage.
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Old Jan 22, 07, 10:30 am
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As part of my move last year, I kept shipping moving boxes along with my luggage. LH takes no responsibility if anything breaks inside, so

1. Checking it as luggage should be no issue if its still in its original packaging
2. I would ship it with DHL if its 50EUR as they have a liability component
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I was too stingy to ship my parents' christmas present (set of glass champagne flutes) last year, got them packed PROPERLY (load and loads and loads of styrofoam... ) and nothing happened on LH...
But with a Flatscreen TV... I'd definitely check it in!
Let us knowhow it went!

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Old Jan 22, 07, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by pcflyer213 View Post
I was too stingy to ship my parents' christmas present (set of glass champagne flutes) last year, got them packed PROPERLY (load and loads and loads of styrofoam... ) and nothing happened on LH...
But with a Flatscreen TV... I'd definitely check it in!
Let us knowhow it went!

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how they through things ...

in AMS you can see how the guys throw your baggage.
it was kinda fun to see how he tried to throw my 45KG baggage, and than he realized that he cant...

so he did put it on the belt very carefully .

if you have a 20KG thing, they will 100% throw it.

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Old Jan 23, 07, 3:28 am
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I would check it in. At the airports you see that it is thrown around.
When I see DPD/DHL/UPS deliver me parcels I see them throwing them around, too.
Do you know if your parcel travels in a simlar plane, loaded by the same loader if you send it via DPD/DHL/UPS?

If the sceen is originally packed it really should survive the journey in the hold.

I had several things sent in the hold and there was no damage (as I know where it is).
Computers were not a problem (if packed in the original packaging).
The last thing I took was my Jura Coffe machine. It was originally packed and labled with "handle with care" stickers. No problem at all.

Insurance: A Luggage-insurance may do the trick and is much cheaper.
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Old Jan 23, 07, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by Tyrolean View Post
I would check it in. At the airports you see that it is thrown around.
When I see DPD/DHL/UPS deliver me parcels I see them throwing them around, too.
Do you know if your parcel travels in a simlar plane, loaded by the same loader if you send it via DPD/DHL/UPS?

If the sceen is originally packed it really should survive the journey in the hold.

I had several things sent in the hold and there was no damage (as I know where it is).
Computers were not a problem (if packed in the original packaging).
The last thing I took was my Jura Coffe machine. It was originally packed and labled with "handle with care" stickers. No problem at all.

Insurance: A Luggage-insurance may do the trick and is much cheaper.
DHL is not flying that stuff from LEJ to BRU... Same with UPS or DPD... Within Central Europe, nearly everything gets trucked. They make you believe they fly it but they don't. The only exception are overnight shipments where the truck would take too long. But you can be sure that there are several trucks a day on the LEJ-BRU segment, both are or will become huge DHL HUBs.
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Old Jan 23, 07, 12:28 pm
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Thanks for all your comments.

Hmmmm. Now I am still not sure as to what to do. Leaning towards sending it by DHL. The problem is that DHL says that one shouldn't be able to deduct the contents from looking at the box (Difficult: Original box shows a big TV...).

Lesson to be learnt by the way: Don't buy a TV abroad, even if it is cheaper, without checking for an international warranty. Mine broke after buying it in Germany, and even though both retailer and manufacturer are active in Belgium, they were not prepared to replace it here.

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Old Jan 23, 07, 1:00 pm
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I really doubt that it costs only 50 Euros to send a 20 kg parcel from LEJ to BRU. But even if this may be correct, I wouldn't do it but would not hesitate to check in on LH, provided that you observe the following points:

According to the SONY Website, a 32" LCD TV has a weight of about 17 kg. I guess that other brands are more or less the same.

The maximum weight of a single piece of luggage must not exceed 32 kg.
Therefore I would try to get a box of a, let's say 37" or 40" LCD TV and put the original box of your TV in it. Use lots of bubble wrap or styrofoam and you should be fine. If you want to make it perfect, wrap the outer box with some brown paper and tape.

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Old Jan 23, 07, 1:34 pm
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Four times year, I travel with full equipment: two computers
with all goodies (but ugly as S*YD as I built them myself),
two robots, 5-8 external drives, tools, and some power supplies.
Started in 98, never ever has anything been stolen. About 6
times, I had the packaging damaged which made me switch to
armoured suitcases.
The main problem prior to armouring the goodies was puncturing.
That a sharp object penetrated the soft packaging basically
piercing a piece of equipment. Always happened when travelling
on UA. The second big issue for the two displays in there was
flexing. Somehow the airports twice managed to bend the
packages in a way that it damage the content.
Ever since armouring, the major issue is accellaration.
I mount G-meters inside the cases and often get readings from
5-12 g.
Within Europe or within Asia I never experienced any exterior damage
or high accelleration.
Armed with a 'fragile' sticker, I hence would not be too
worried about checking in a single display, especially if it's
well wrapped.
The one thing you must make sure though is that any other
bags stacked upon your box will not be able to push against
the display itself as they are very pressure sensitive in the
long run.
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Old Jan 23, 07, 2:16 pm
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If you want to make it perfect, wrap the outer box with some brown paper and tape.
I would do this and then ship it with DHL, insured. LH would not cost you anything for the transport, but you'd be high and dry if the TV got broken along the way. With DHL, at least you'd be covered for a higher amount if something goes wrong, and to me, that would be worth the extra expense for shipping.
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Old Jan 23, 07, 9:03 pm
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Four times year, I travel with full equipment: two computers
with all goodies (but ugly as S*YD as I built them myself),
two robots, 5-8 external drives, tools, and some power supplies.
Started in 98, never ever has anything been stolen. About 6
times, I had the packaging damaged which made me switch to
armoured suitcases.
The main problem prior to armouring the goodies was puncturing.
That a sharp object penetrated the soft packaging basically
piercing a piece of equipment. Always happened when travelling
on UA. The second big issue for the two displays in there was
flexing. Somehow the airports twice managed to bend the
packages in a way that it damage the content.
Ever since armouring, the major issue is accellaration.
I mount G-meters inside the cases and often get readings from
5-12 g.
Within Europe or within Asia I never experienced any exterior damage
or high accelleration.
Armed with a 'fragile' sticker, I hence would not be too
worried about checking in a single display, especially if it's
well wrapped.
The one thing you must make sure though is that any other
bags stacked upon your box will not be able to push against
the display itself as they are very pressure sensitive in the
long run.
How would UA accelerate/decelerate anything to 12g ???
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Old Jan 24, 07, 12:47 am
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How would UA accelerate/decelerate anything to 12g ???
Drop a box from 1 metre. Accelaration: 1g. Deceleration when hitting the floor: 12g (maybe).

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