expertflyer now showing award classes
Apr 4, 2006, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by fradoc
Hi jotxl,
One caveat: I do not know, if LH discriminates between I-Upgrade and I-award classes.
One caveat: I do not know, if LH discriminates between I-Upgrade and I-award classes.
Cheers, Stefan
Aug 10, 2006, 9:39 pm
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Indeed, but it's actually Sabre that's showing the classes, so not restricted to ExpertFlyer.
Aug 11, 2006, 4:46 am
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strange, they show up only for certain flights:
[KVS Availability Tool 2.3.0/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/US-AX1]
[KVS Availability Tool 2.3.0/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/US-AX1]
Code:
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] NCE Nice Cote D'Azur FR [LFMN] FR 15 Sep 2006 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------------------------------------- LH 4130 FRA 08:15 NCE 09:45 737 0 C4 D3 Z0 I0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 X7 Q7 V0 W0 U0 S0 LH 4134 FRA 12:30 NCE 14:00 737 0 C2 D1 Z0 I0 Y9 B9 M9 H7 X0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 S0 LH/EW 4136 FRA 15:30 NCE 17:10 146 0 C9 D9 Z6 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 U0 S9 G9 K9 LH 4138 FRA 16:50 NCE 18:20 737 0 C7 D6 Z0 I0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 X9 Q9 V7 W0 U0 S0 LH 4142 FRA 21:05 NCE 22:35 737 0 C9 D3 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 U0 S9 G9 K9
Aug 11, 2006, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by jarino
strange, they show up only for certain flights
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Sep 25, 2006, 7:22 am
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Award classes currently visible in KVS
just saw that amadeus is currently displaying LH award classes
[KVS Availability Tool 2.3.0/Platinum - Amadeus: AUA]
[KVS Availability Tool 2.3.0/Platinum - Amadeus: AUA]
Code:
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] SO 14 Jan 2007 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------------------------------------------- LH 778 FRA 22:10 SIN 16:55 +1 744 0 F9 A9 O0 C9 D0 Z0 I0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 X0 Q0 V0 W0 S0
Sep 25, 2006, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by verve
just saw that amadeus is currently displaying LH award classes
[B][COLOR=blue][KVS Availability Tool 2.3.0/Platinum - Amadeus: AUA]
[B][COLOR=blue][KVS Availability Tool 2.3.0/Platinum - Amadeus: AUA]
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Sep 25, 2006, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by f0zzyNUE
i don't know from which system expertflyer extracts its information, but award classes are displayed on expertflyer for quite a while now (strangely not for each end every flight, but for most)
Sep 26, 2006, 8:07 am
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We are continuing to use "direct access" for LH Flight Availability when LH is specified as the only Airline Code. That is why the award classes are available at all.
If not every flight shows the classes it may be because they are not loaded into the system by LH or just not available. Historically, the ability to access them seems to come and go.
If not every flight shows the classes it may be because they are not loaded into the system by LH or just not available. Historically, the ability to access them seems to come and go.
Sep 26, 2006, 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
If not every flight shows the classes it may be because they are not loaded into the system by LH or just not available. Historically, the ability to access them seems to come and go.
Because my secret personal weblink to the Sabre system shows award classes for all LH operated flights, no exceptions, as long as I'm using direct access. However, ExpertFlyer doesn't show them for certain flights, even though "LH" is of course specified as the carrier of choice.I checked a few more flights on my link using non-direct LH access and pretty much got identical results as through ExpertFlyer, meaning some flights show award classes, some do not. So, are you really sure you are using an "@LH" query as opposed to "#LH"?
Sep 26, 2006, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
Now that's strange. Because my secret personal weblink to the Sabre system shows award classes for all LH operated flights, no exceptions, as long as I'm using direct access. However, ExpertFlyer doesn't show them for certain flights, even though "LH" is of course specified as the carrier of choice.
I checked a few more flights on my link using non-direct LH access and pretty much got identical results as through ExpertFlyer, meaning some flights show award classes, some do not. So, are you really sure you are using an "@LH" query as opposed to "#LH"?
Because my secret personal weblink to the Sabre system shows award classes for all LH operated flights, no exceptions, as long as I'm using direct access. However, ExpertFlyer doesn't show them for certain flights, even though "LH" is of course specified as the carrier of choice.I checked a few more flights on my link using non-direct LH access and pretty much got identical results as through ExpertFlyer, meaning some flights show award classes, some do not. So, are you really sure you are using an "@LH" query as opposed to "#LH"?
It is certainly possible that any differences may be attributable to the city code from which the query is being originated as airlines may present different inventory based on PCCs.
We look forward to a PM from you on specific flights/dates where you have found the results based on your access to Sabre differs from ours and will be more than happy to investigate it thoroughly. We too would like to understand the discrepancies.
Thank you for your support,
EFV
Sep 26, 2006, 6:12 pm
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I found something. The LH award classes sometimes didn't show up when making queries from "saved queries". After "resaving" such a query without changing anything, the award classes showed up.
They also suddenly showed up after using the "refine" function and simply changing nothing. So maybe there's a little glitch regarding saved queries from the tiem before your latest site update?
They also suddenly showed up after using the "refine" function and simply changing nothing. So maybe there's a little glitch regarding saved queries from the tiem before your latest site update?
Sep 27, 2006, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by FlorianGrassl
Tried to book SIN-FRA on LH on 15/01/07 and expertflyer shows availability for 4 in O class but M&M online booking and M&M phone says that first available flight is on 18/01/07.
Can anybody explain this?
Can anybody explain this?
[KVS Availability Tool 2.4.0/Platinum - Galileo: ETR]
Code:
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] MON 15 Jan 2007 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ------------ LH 779 SIN 23:59 FRA 05:45 +1 747 0 O1
Code:
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] THU 18 Jan 2007 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ------------ LH 779 SIN 23:59 FRA 05:45 +1 747 0 O4