New "improvements" of M&M 1 April 2006
#181
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Tübingen, Germany
Posts: 2,732
Originally Posted by dia15222
...On many Airlines the requirments for an FTL would be enough for *G...
It is not that simple.
BTW you need 10 R/T in C for domestic UK on BA to reach silver - at least to my knowledge you only get 20 Tier Points for that - then again considering that BA will do away with C apart from LHR and LGW verysoon - it will beeven more difficult - a last add on - if you are based in the UK - your requirements for silver also change as for its own nationals the requirement is higher - 600 vs 400 Tier Points for Europeans.
Cheers
Thomas
#182
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: Darth Vader of AMEX, A ladys best friend of Hilton, Pt78 of SPG, *G ,*S, ANA VIP
Posts: 3,931
depends
in my eyes, it is great for the baggage allowance and the lounge acess as a LH FTL.
the baggage allowance saved my ... when i was not a *Gold.
so having the LH FTL helped me to carry each time around 70KG ... ( some years ago it was 40KG + 5KG tolerance for FTL) and i had 25KG handbaggae all the time.
i think, if you flying business C (200% mileage) and First (300%) LH is the best programm as you will be SEN/FTL very fast.
if you fly mostly economy another * program like thai, asiana will fit better, as there you get only 25% /50% as COS bonus.
btw. for me it was impossible to get SEN status as i had too less flights in paid C or F the last 3 years, but it was easy to get * Gold with 50K miles in one year.
so may be the trick is to get FTL on LH first. than you can use the lounge and can carry the baggage.
the next year you can use the FTL benefits while crediting points to another carrier in *.
if you only fly economy... 50K is still a long way to fly
in first or business it is easy , i am already at 25K status miles this year....
dp
the baggage allowance saved my ... when i was not a *Gold.
so having the LH FTL helped me to carry each time around 70KG ... ( some years ago it was 40KG + 5KG tolerance for FTL) and i had 25KG handbaggae all the time.
i think, if you flying business C (200% mileage) and First (300%) LH is the best programm as you will be SEN/FTL very fast.
if you fly mostly economy another * program like thai, asiana will fit better, as there you get only 25% /50% as COS bonus.
btw. for me it was impossible to get SEN status as i had too less flights in paid C or F the last 3 years, but it was easy to get * Gold with 50K miles in one year.
so may be the trick is to get FTL on LH first. than you can use the lounge and can carry the baggage.
the next year you can use the FTL benefits while crediting points to another carrier in *.
if you only fly economy... 50K is still a long way to fly
in first or business it is easy , i am already at 25K status miles this year....
dp
#183
Join Date: May 2004
Location: MUC,INN
Programs: LH SEN, QF PS, Sixt , Bahn,...
Posts: 243
Just looking for prices for my next Trip to London in Feb. I can book fixed Tickets.
LH goes with about 280 Euro Booking-Class K and T so it is 875 + 25% StatusbonusMiles! No more Segments, but Access to the SEN-Lounge
BA offers me a C-Class Ticket for 260 Euro which gives me 1150 + 25% Statusbonus Qantas Miles and 80 Status-Credits. Access to the Terrace in LHR
Paying with my SEN-CC i will get about 260 Award Miles for the BA-Flight!
Guess what I will book!
With Segments the choice would have been different!
LH goes with about 280 Euro Booking-Class K and T so it is 875 + 25% StatusbonusMiles! No more Segments, but Access to the SEN-Lounge
BA offers me a C-Class Ticket for 260 Euro which gives me 1150 + 25% Statusbonus Qantas Miles and 80 Status-Credits. Access to the Terrace in LHR
Paying with my SEN-CC i will get about 260 Award Miles for the BA-Flight!
Guess what I will book!
With Segments the choice would have been different!
Last edited by dia15222; Jan 22, 2006 at 4:16 am
#184
Join Date: Dec 2005
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold
Posts: 6,913
Originally Posted by dia15222
Just looking for prices for my next Trip to London in Feb. I can book fixed Tickets.
LH goes with about 280 Euro Booking-Class K and T so it is 875 + 25% StatusbonusMiles! No more Segments, but Access to the SEN-Lounge
BA offers me a C-Class Ticket for 260 Euro which gives me 1150 + 25% Statusbonus Qantas Miles and 80 Status-Credits. Access to the Terrace in LHR Guess what I will book!
With Segments the choice would have been different!
LH goes with about 280 Euro Booking-Class K and T so it is 875 + 25% StatusbonusMiles! No more Segments, but Access to the SEN-Lounge
BA offers me a C-Class Ticket for 260 Euro which gives me 1150 + 25% Statusbonus Qantas Miles and 80 Status-Credits. Access to the Terrace in LHR Guess what I will book!
With Segments the choice would have been different!
#185
Join Date: May 2004
Location: MUC,INN
Programs: LH SEN, QF PS, Sixt , Bahn,...
Posts: 243
Originally Posted by totti
Had the same finding some days ago. FRA-LHR 243 € in C class (not flex). Will have a shot to BA, too. BTW that's a good chance starting an OW career
Mid Feb I will become Qantas Gold.
Last edited by dia15222; Jan 22, 2006 at 4:17 am
#186
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Eurozone
Programs: LH SEN, HH Gold
Posts: 3,002
So, I'm about to drop down to FTL unless I spring for the €1500 payment.
I receive my new FTL card in advance, along with a letter for applying for SEN renewal @ €1500, and a brochure that says look at the benefits and privileges that you'll enjoy for the next two years. One of them is that FTLs can take a companion into the lounges. No mention that there will be changes 32 days after your FTL starts.
Same crappy LH miscommunications and/or misrepresentations as ever. ^
I receive my new FTL card in advance, along with a letter for applying for SEN renewal @ €1500, and a brochure that says look at the benefits and privileges that you'll enjoy for the next two years. One of them is that FTLs can take a companion into the lounges. No mention that there will be changes 32 days after your FTL starts.
Same crappy LH miscommunications and/or misrepresentations as ever. ^
#187
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: ZRH / MUC / VIE
Programs: M&M basic / happy Wizzair+ user :-)
Posts: 6,490
Originally Posted by Grog
So, I'm about to drop down to FTL unless I spring for the €1500 payment.
Ohm... will the SEN-status be extended for one or two years?
Is there a similar offer for FTL-extentions?
Patrick
#188
Join Date: Dec 2005
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold
Posts: 6,913
Originally Posted by rorschi
1500€ for access to owercrowded lounges and for one long-haul-upgrade? Come on...
Ohm... will the SEN-status be extended for one or two years?
Is there a similar offer for FTL-extentions?
Patrick
Is there a similar offer for FTL-extentions?
Patrick
#189
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: FDH - Markdorf
Programs: LH SEN, SIXT Platinum and many more
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by Yokdoc
In future times (from April 1st) it will not be possible to bring your own child to the lounge! Only exception: child is a baby less than 2 y/o. Any suggestions what is the best way/best address to send a complain about this unfriendly rule?
It is now not 100% sure that it will go this way, but it is more likely than the other way round (as the LH agent said).
It is now not 100% sure that it will go this way, but it is more likely than the other way round (as the LH agent said).
Rolf
#190
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Eurozone
Programs: LH SEN, HH Gold
Posts: 3,002
Originally Posted by rorschi
1500€ for access to owercrowded lounges and for one long-haul-upgrade? Come on...
Ohm... will the SEN-status be extended for one or two years?
Is there a similar offer for FTL-extentions?
Patrick
Ohm... will the SEN-status be extended for one or two years?
Is there a similar offer for FTL-extentions?
Patrick
2 - One year
3 - Nope, not for FTLs.
#191
Join Date: May 2004
Location: near FRA
Programs: UA 1K 2MM (*G)
Posts: 1,459
Originally Posted by Yokdoc
In future times (from April 1st) it will not be possible to bring your own child to the lounge! Only exception: child is a baby less than 2 y/o. Any suggestions what is the best way/best address to send a complain about this unfriendly rule?
F.R.
#192
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Eurozone
Programs: LH SEN, HH Gold
Posts: 3,002
Originally Posted by prollo
Thats not correct. A family-member (wife or child) is not a guest, its a family-member. LH makes a separation for that! In other words:You can put your wife and your 3 childs and a friend in a SEN lounge or yourself, your wife and your 3 childs without a friend in a FTL-Lounge (also valid from 1st of April).
Rolf
Rolf
Begleitpersonen können zukünftig nicht mehr mitgenommen werden.
Of course, with LH's poor communications history, you may be correct, but LH doesn't show a differentiation here. A family member would still be a companion/Begleitperson, even if they are a family member and not make it into the FTL lounge.
#193
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: FDH - Markdorf
Programs: LH SEN, SIXT Platinum and many more
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by Grog
Unfortunately, companions may no longer enter with you in the future.
Begleitpersonen können zukünftig nicht mehr mitgenommen werden.
Of course, with LH's poor communications history, you may be correct, but LH doesn't show a differentiation here. A family member would still be a companion/Begleitperson, even if they are a family member and not make it into the FTL lounge.
Begleitpersonen können zukünftig nicht mehr mitgenommen werden.
Of course, with LH's poor communications history, you may be correct, but LH doesn't show a differentiation here. A family member would still be a companion/Begleitperson, even if they are a family member and not make it into the FTL lounge.
#194
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: FDH - Markdorf
Programs: LH SEN, SIXT Platinum and many more
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by Grog
1 - No one guarantees that you even get the eVouchers with the cash payment
2 - One year
3 - Nope, not for FTLs.
2 - One year
3 - Nope, not for FTLs.
#195
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CH-3823 Wengen Switzerland
Programs: miles&more, MileagePlus
Posts: 27,041
Originally Posted by prollo
So a SEN can extent his SEN for an addional year for 1500€ (he should be a SEN+ member ;-) ?Some infos on the public web? Didn't hear before of this (since 2 friends didn't get this offer, they are now FTLer).
No vouchers given out for such a bought one-year prolongation of SEN status.