Life-long Senator status [merged lifetime SEN]
Apr 29, 2017, 9:33 pm
#332
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MIA and VRN
Programs: SEN LH Hyatt Globalist AA EXP
Posts: 612
This is the translation of the post from Oliver2002, referring to a lurker clarification :
The SEN lifetime status can not be applied for, but is offered by Miles & More if certain conditions are fulfilled. This includes, among other things, having passed the Senator's status for at least ten years (no matter at which time), to have passed at least 1,000,000 status miles during these ten years, as well as 60 years old or in the foreseeable future
So it appears that you don't need to apply, 10 years for SEN status are necessary (but do not need to be consecutive) and you need to have at least 1M STATUS miles during those 10 years.
However there is not written rule (accessible to us) that I am aware of
The SEN lifetime status can not be applied for, but is offered by Miles & More if certain conditions are fulfilled. This includes, among other things, having passed the Senator's status for at least ten years (no matter at which time), to have passed at least 1,000,000 status miles during these ten years, as well as 60 years old or in the foreseeable future
So it appears that you don't need to apply, 10 years for SEN status are necessary (but do not need to be consecutive) and you need to have at least 1M STATUS miles during those 10 years.
However there is not written rule (accessible to us) that I am aware of
May 5, 2017, 1:56 am
#334
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: CH-3823 Wengen Switzerland
Programs: miles&more, MileagePlus
Posts: 27,041
This is the translation of the post from Oliver2002, referring to a lurker clarification :
The SEN lifetime status can not be applied for, but is offered by Miles & More if certain conditions are fulfilled. This includes, among other things, having passed the Senator's status for at least ten years (no matter at which time), to have passed at least 1,000,000 status miles during these ten years, as well as 60 years old or in the foreseeable future
So it appears that you don't need to apply, 10 years for SEN status are necessary (but do not need to be consecutive) and you need to have at least 1M STATUS miles during those 10 years.
However there is not written rule (accessible to us) that I am aware of
The SEN lifetime status can not be applied for, but is offered by Miles & More if certain conditions are fulfilled. This includes, among other things, having passed the Senator's status for at least ten years (no matter at which time), to have passed at least 1,000,000 status miles during these ten years, as well as 60 years old or in the foreseeable future
So it appears that you don't need to apply, 10 years for SEN status are necessary (but do not need to be consecutive) and you need to have at least 1M STATUS miles during those 10 years.
However there is not written rule (accessible to us) that I am aware of
May 5, 2017, 2:24 pm
#335
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Up in the air
Programs: LH HON, BA LT Gold, AFKL ULTI, WOH Lifetime Globalist, Bonvoy Ambassador
Posts: 385
plus being over 60 years of age too! The complete rules were officially published many years ago by Lufthansa, when the miles&more-program featured its 10 years anniversary. And at that time they asked candidates to please apply themselves for life-status (which I did some years later, referring to the initial offer, and was granted weeks later, still being renewed now automatically ever 2 years. I am now 74 years of age which always includes also 2 free upgrade vouchers every 2nd year).
Oct 30, 2017, 1:41 am
#339
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,161
LH will provide you an extract of all data they have on your file if you request it in writing citing the relevant German law.
Every agent can see your lifetime miles on the screen when they pull up your M&M record.
Every agent can see your lifetime miles on the screen when they pull up your M&M record.
Nov 8, 2017, 12:21 pm
#340
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Fort Lauderdale
Programs: UA: 1K 1.5MM, DL: LTDM 3.5MM, JB: Mosaic4, LH: exSEN 1MM, Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite, Hertz PresC
Posts: 266
Great. What is the "law" that I should be referring too?
Nov 20, 2017, 10:36 am
#342
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,168
Just curious as my dad has lifetime SEN (not me, I defected to OW whilst living in SIN), but do cabin crew see someone with this status as just a regular SEN, a lifetime SEN or something else in the system like "not-a-real-mileage-collecting-SEN but just a >60 y.o. free-loader?" 
Feb 16, 2018, 7:44 am
#343
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Qantas, Miles and More
Posts: 16
senator lifetime membership
Rules for mails are not as clever as you think. That you have received that mail doesn’t mean, that you won‘t get lifetime SEN.
You can not get lifetime SEN before you failed to requalify, that means not before January.
If you don‘t get the lifetime SEN automatically next year, you should ask for it at the SEN service.
You can not get lifetime SEN before you failed to requalify, that means not before January.
If you don‘t get the lifetime SEN automatically next year, you should ask for it at the SEN service.
" You will achieve your aim when you have held the Senator Status for a decade without a break and are unable to earn sufficient miles to extend your status in the usual manner. When these conditions are met, the system automatically checks if you have accumulated a minimum of one million status miles during the afore-mentioned period. As you have not fulfilled all of the requirements, we cannot grant your request. If the criteria change in the future, we will review your account to ensure that you are not disadvantaged" The local.Miles $ More office advised me that I had accumulated more than a million miles I have been a member since 2006 and a gold member of the Swiss Qualiflyer scheme for at least 2 years before the takeover. I am 74 years of age. Miles and More have seen fit not to let me know where my application fail and have introduced a new criteria "unable to earn sufficient miles to extend your status in the usual manner". I have reduced my travel because of my age and fail to see why that should be an impediment to my claim. Furthermore the criteria is open ended that it could be used to exclude any one with funds pay for annual travel of at least 100,000 miles. My advice is that members of Miles & More should not slow down their travel arrangements until they have checked their entitlements M & M. I have to say they are not very helpful in this regard.
Feb 27, 2018, 8:49 am
#344
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,038
So what I see here, the rules are
-you must fail to requalify
-in previous 10 years, you must have held SEN status
-in previous 10 years, you must have achieved 100K miles on average, therefore no dead years or moving to other cards past qualification...
As per your example @anatinus, you might have achieved more than 1 million miles total as per M&M office, however, if that was over more than 10 years... I suppose it's possible that if you had heavy travel in year 2006 or 2007 and light travel in year 2008 and/or 2017 it might just so have worked out that 2008-2017 total was under 1 mil. I'm not quite sure how the math works out for you though. Supposing the 2007 was the first year you qualified after takeover (2006 and 2007 status being granted as continuation of Qualiflyer) you'd only need to have 100K or more miles in 2007, 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015.
-you must fail to requalify
-in previous 10 years, you must have held SEN status
-in previous 10 years, you must have achieved 100K miles on average, therefore no dead years or moving to other cards past qualification...
As per your example @anatinus, you might have achieved more than 1 million miles total as per M&M office, however, if that was over more than 10 years... I suppose it's possible that if you had heavy travel in year 2006 or 2007 and light travel in year 2008 and/or 2017 it might just so have worked out that 2008-2017 total was under 1 mil. I'm not quite sure how the math works out for you though. Supposing the 2007 was the first year you qualified after takeover (2006 and 2007 status being granted as continuation of Qualiflyer) you'd only need to have 100K or more miles in 2007, 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015.
Feb 27, 2018, 12:11 pm
#345
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: LH SEN, FB Plat., HH D.
Posts: 5,050
So what I see here, the rules are
-you must fail to requalify
-in previous 10 years, you must have held SEN status
-in previous 10 years, you must have achieved 100K miles on average, therefore no dead years or moving to other cards past qualification...
As per your example @anatinus, you might have achieved more than 1 million miles total as per M&M office, however, if that was over more than 10 years... I suppose it's possible that if you had heavy travel in year 2006 or 2007 and light travel in year 2008 and/or 2017 it might just so have worked out that 2008-2017 total was under 1 mil. I'm not quite sure how the math works out for you though. Supposing the 2007 was the first year you qualified after takeover (2006 and 2007 status being granted as continuation of Qualiflyer) you'd only need to have 100K or more miles in 2007, 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015.
-you must fail to requalify
-in previous 10 years, you must have held SEN status
-in previous 10 years, you must have achieved 100K miles on average, therefore no dead years or moving to other cards past qualification...
As per your example @anatinus, you might have achieved more than 1 million miles total as per M&M office, however, if that was over more than 10 years... I suppose it's possible that if you had heavy travel in year 2006 or 2007 and light travel in year 2008 and/or 2017 it might just so have worked out that 2008-2017 total was under 1 mil. I'm not quite sure how the math works out for you though. Supposing the 2007 was the first year you qualified after takeover (2006 and 2007 status being granted as continuation of Qualiflyer) you'd only need to have 100K or more miles in 2007, 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015.