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Old Jul 26, 2005, 11:45 am
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Lufthansa pronounces price attack on no frills carriers for inner German routes € 99

The answer of Lufthansa regarding DBA´s low price tickets sold at supermarket chains in Germany (one way € 49,-) was given today as they pronounced the offer of 900.000 return tickets for a fixed price of 99,- € (incl. all taxes and service charges) available from thursday on through August 13. th. Flights on these tickets may be booked til March 30th 2006.
I wonder, what booking class this will be (to be able to check availibility).

Seems to be an interesting offer, here is the whole publication (sorry, German only):

"Unmittelbar vor dem Verkauf von Flugtickets beim Discounter Aldi Süd hat die Lufthansa ihre Tarife für zahlreiche Inlandsflüge gesenkt und unterbietet damit knapp die direkte Konkurrenz.

900 000 Hin- und Rückflug-Tickets seien zu einem Preis von 99 Euro inklusive aller Steuern, Gebühren und Service-Zuschläge zu erhalten, teilte das Unternehmen am Dienstag mit. Die Fluggesellschaft dba hatte angekündigt, von Mittwoch an mehr als eine halbe Million Tickets für 49,99 Euro pro einfacher Strecke bei Aldi zu verkaufen.

Keine Warteschlangen

„Lufthansa macht den neusten PR-Gag der Branche nicht mit. Bei uns müssen die Passagiere nicht beim Lebensmittel-Discounter Schlange stehen", sagte Vertriebsvorstand Thierry Antinori. Die Tickets können zu 99 Euro bei der Lufthansa im Internet, an den Lufthansa-Schaltern an Flughäfen oder im Call-Center gekauft werden. Im Reisebüro kann der Preis dagegen etwas über oder unter dem Lufthansa-Tarif liegen. Angeboten werden alle innerdeutschen Strecken zur Buchung von diesem Donnerstag an bis zum 13. August. Gültig sind die Tickets für Reisen bis zum 30. März 2006.

Acht Flugscheine pro Kunde

Der Billigflieger dba hatte nach entsprechenden Aktionen von Air Berlin und der Deutschen Bahn den Verkauf von Tickets im Supermarkt angekündigt. Jeder Aldi-Süd-Kunde kann demnach maximal acht Flugscheine auf einmal kaufen. Die Gutscheine sind nicht an eine Person gebunden und müssen per Internet oder Telefon bis zum 4. September eingelöst werden. Gebucht werden können zwischen dem 27. Juli und dem 25. März 2006 Flüge auf insgesamt 32 Strecken. In Deutschland startet dba von 13 Flughäfen. Zu den Zielen zählen neben 18 innerdeutsche Verbindungen auch Rom, Florenz und Nizza. Ausgenommen von der Sonderaktion sind Moskau und Tiflis.

Kunden gingen leer aus

Ende Juni hatte Air Berlin als erste deutsche Fluggesellschaft rund 100 000 Flug-Gutscheine bei der Supermarktkette Penny verkauft. Der Verkauf von einer Million Bahntickets löste Mitte Mai einen regelrechten Ansturm auf Filialen des Lebensmitteldiscounters Lidl aus. Verbraucherschützer kritisierten die Aktion damals als „Lockvogel-Angebote“. Obwohl der Ticketverkauf für eine Woche angekündigt war, gingen Kunden vielerorts leer aus, da die Gutscheine schon nach wenigen Minuten vergriffen waren."
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Old Jul 26, 2005, 12:15 pm
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Gotta love competition.
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Old Jul 26, 2005, 12:43 pm
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Almost certainly T or L class, I would expect
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Old Jul 26, 2005, 9:52 pm
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I can't see what's so special about these fares. I have been booking domestic T fares as etix on lufthansa.co.uk for many months, and the end price (converted from Brit. Pounds) is always something like EUR 96-97, everything included. Since T and L fares don't earn points with PartnerBenefitPlus, anyway, there's no point in purchasing these fares in Germany.
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 1:46 am
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Funny, but I thought LH isn't competing with the no-frills and LH personnel themselves have even told me this.

„Lufthansa won't play along with the newest PR-Gag". Excuse me? Then why lower the TSC for this period and put out a press release?

So, once again LH considers us all too stupid to notice that they actually DID play along. Good PR ^
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
I can't see what's so special about these fares. I have been booking domestic T fares as etix on lufthansa.co.uk for many months, and the end price (converted from Brit. Pounds) is always something like EUR 96-97, everything included.
This is free and good PR, cause a vast majority of the people will not realise that it is unlikeky that LH will release only one additional seat for this anyway and that the fares are more or less always available.

However the promo from Aldi/DBA is quite solid, for example Thessaloniki is included from DUS and instead of paying 28000 miles on LH/OS and about € 145 in taxes alone, one can go for € 100 on DBA, so there are some cherries to pick, obviously not necassarily on intragermn routes though...
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by Grog
Funny, but I thought LH isn't competing with the no-frills and LH personnel themselves have even told me this.
well, dba is not a no-frill airline. Service is superior to LH domestic!
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 8:49 am
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Here are the fare rules from Amadeus:

Code:
**  RULES DISPLAY  **                  TAX MAY APPLY                            
01OCT05**01OCT05/LH MUCBER/NSP;EH/TPM   294/MPM .....                           
LN FARE BASIS    OW   EUR  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R                
18*TOLL94                    22 + NRF S28JUL  30MAR+  + -   6M R                
                                      A28JUL B13AUG                             
                                      O30MAR T28JUL                             
FCL: TOLL94    TRF: 304 RULE: 6726 BK:  T                                       
PTC: ADT-ADULT              FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF                    
RU.RULE APPLICATION                                                             
SPECIAL FARE DOMESTIC DE                                                        
 APPLICATION                                                                    
   AREA                                                                         
     THESE FARES APPLY                                                          
     WITHIN GERMANY.                                                            
   CLASS OF SERVICE                                                             
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.                               
   TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION                                                      
     FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE                          
     ROUND-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.                                       
   FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE.                              
                                                  PAGE  1/ 9                    
>MD
 OTHER CONDITIONS                                                               
   NO MILEAGE UPGRADE FOR T AND L BOOKING CLASS                                 
   POSSIBLE.                                                                    
                                                                                
MX.MAX STAY                                                                     
FOR TOLL94 FARES                                                                
                                                                                
  TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 6                       
  MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.                                      
                                                                                
SE.SEASONS                                                                      
FOR TOLL94 FARES                                                                
                                                                                
  PERMITTED 28JUL 05 THROUGH 30MAR 06.                                          
                                                                                
SR.SALES RESTRICT                                                               
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED                                                      
                                                                                
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 28JUL 05 AND ON/BEFORE                        
  13AUG 05.                                                                     
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>MD
                                                                                
  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AUSTRIA/BELGIUM/SWITZERLAND/                      
  CYPRUS/CZECH REPUBLIC/GERMANY/DENMARK/ESTONIA/SPAIN AND                       
  CANARY ISLANDS/FINLAND/FRANCE/UNITED KINGDOM/GREECE/                          
  HUNGARY/IRELAND/ITALY/LITHUANIA/LUXEMBOURG/LATVIA/MALTA/                      
  NETHERLANDS/POLAND/PORTUGAL/SWEDEN/SLOVENIA/SLOVAKIA/                         
  NORWAY/ICELAND/TURKEY.                                                        
         NOTE -                                                                 
          TICKETS TO BE ISSUED IN AUSTRIA/BELGIUM/                              
          SWITZERLAND/CYPRUS/CZECH REPUBLIC/GERMANY/                            
          DENMARK/ESTONIA/SPAIN AND CANARY ISLANDS/                             
          FINLAND/FRANCE/UNITED KINGDOM/GREECE/HUNGARY/                         
          IRELAND/ITALY/LITHUANIA/LUXEMBOURG/LATVIA/                            
          MALTA/NETHERLANDS/POLAND/PORTUGAL/SWEDEN/                             
          SLOVENIA/SLOVAKIA/NORWAY/ICELAND/TURKEY ONLY.                         
  *** GENERAL RULE FOLLOWS ***                                                  
                                                                                
  EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.                                
         NOTE -                                                                 
           SALES RESTRICTIONS/ SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT                         
           COUPONS                                                              
                                                  PAGE  3/ 9                    
>MD
           OTHER CONDITIONS                                                     
             FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS -                        
             THE TICKET /OR ELECTRONIC TICKET/ IS NOT VALID                     
             IF THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL                     
             NOT BE HONOURED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED                    
             IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET /OR                         
             ELECTRONIC TICKET/.                                                
                                                                                
TR.TVL RESTRICTION                                                              
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED                                                      
                                                                                
  VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 28JUL 05 AND ON/                         
  BEFORE 30MAR 06.                                                              
                                                                                
AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT                                                              
                                                                                
  RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.                                    
  TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER                             
  RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.                                                        
                                                                                
FL.FLT APPLICATION                                                              
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>MD
                                                                                
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON                                                 
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY LH FLIGHT                                                           
      ON DIRECT FLIGHTS.                                                        
                                                                                
CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS                                                              
                                                                                
  ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT                                          
  OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE                            
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - NO DISCOUNT                                 
  OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - NO DISCOUNT.                                  
         NOTE -                                                                 
          UNACCOMPAINE MINORS UNDER 5 YEARS OF AGE WILL NOT                     
          BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRAIGE.                                             
                                                                                
AD.AGTS DISCOUNTS                                                               
NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED                                                 
                                                                                
OD.OTHER DISCOUNTS                                                              
NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED                                                 
                                                  PAGE  5/ 9                    
>MD
                                                                                
SO.STOPOVERS                                                                    
                                                                                
  NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.                                                       
                                                                                
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  NO TRANSFERS PERMITTED.                                                       
                                                                                
                                                                                
TE.TKT ENDORSEMENT                                                              
FOR TOLL94 FARES                                                                
                                                                                
  THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - CHANGE OF RES                         
  RESTRICTED - AND - VALID LH ONLY - AND - NON REFUNDABLE -                     
  IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.                                                       
  AND - THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF/SPEX-                    
        IN THE FORM OF PAYMENT BOX.                                             
                                                                                
PE.PENALTIES                                                                    
FOR TOLL94 FARES                                                                
                                                  PAGE  6/ 9                    
>MD
                                                                                
  CANCELLATIONS                                                                 
                                                                                
    ANY TIME                                                                    
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.                                                 
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.                           
         NOTE -                                                                 
          WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE.                       
          -----------------------------------------                             
          REFUND OF UNUSED FEES AND TAXES PERMITTED.                            
          -----------------------------------------                             
                                                                                
  CHANGES                                                                       
                                                                                
    ANY TIME                                                                    
      CHARGE EUR 50.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.                                
         NOTE -                                                                 
          CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION.                                       
          -----                                                                 
          REBOOKING/REISSUE/MCO ISSUANCE MUST BE MADE IN                        
          ONE TRANSACTION BEFORE DEPARTURE OF THE FLIGHT                        
                                                  PAGE  7/ 9                    
>MD
          BEING CHANGED PROVIDED THAT ALL THE CONDITIONS OF                     
          THE FARE INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE ARE COMPILED                      
          WITH.                                                                 
          -----                                                                 
          REROUTINGS ARE NOT PERMITTED.                                         
          UPGRADE TO HIGHER FARE NOT PERMITTED.                                 
                                                                                
CO.COMBINABILITY                                                                
   DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.                                 
   END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED.                                                    
   ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED.                                                       
  OPEN JAWS                                                                     
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS                            
    -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS.                                                  
     A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED.                                  
   PROVIDED -                                                                   
     THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE                                                   
     -BETWEEN CGN AND DUS/BETWEEN DRS AND LEJ/BETWEEN HAM                       
      AND BRE/BETWEEN MUC AND NUE/BETWEEN STR AND FRA/                          
      BETWEEN HAM AND HAJ/BETWEEN MUC AND STR/BETWEEN DUS                       
      AND DTM/BETWEEN DTM AND FMO/BETWEEN PAD AND DTM/                          
                                                  PAGE  8/ 9                    
>MD
      BETWEEN DUS AND FMO                                                       
      COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH IN ANY                      
      RULE IN THIS TARIFF.                                                      
  ROUND TRIPS                                                                   
   FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS                             
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS.                                                       
   PROVIDED -                                                                   
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH IN ANY                       
      RULE IN THIS TARIFF.                                                      
                                                  PAGE  9/ 9
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 12:38 pm
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In T class, this offer really is useless -- hardly cheaper than any T class fare within Germany anyway.
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 4:17 pm
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Maybe they open up some additional seats?

This would be the only benfit of this promotion
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by moosgruber
Maybe they open up some additional seats?

This would be the only benfit of this promotion
4 T-Returns booked :-)
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Old Jul 27, 2005, 5:40 pm
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3* T-Fare

I love LH...
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Old Jul 28, 2005, 8:13 am
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Did you actually book today ?
I also tried itm, but they haven't opened up more seats in my point of view.
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Old Jul 28, 2005, 8:43 am
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Availability is absolutely laughable, at least for my bread and butter run. Checked the next 6 weekends, nothing. Far better off with the dba tickets and from the guys I sent out to get them at Aldi I heard there were no long lines whatsoever.

If it was still 1250 miles per T,L etc segment I wouldnt have bothered to fly dba, but after the first flight with them I am satisfied and dont look back. LH lounge dba flight nice combination, but I am sure LH will take away this last useful priviledge for SENs soon.
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Old Jul 28, 2005, 12:36 pm
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How NOT to book T-fares...

Alright,

as UA´s program no longer allows accrual of LH´s T-fares:

Is there a way to book a -let´s say ´W´- fare on LH´s webside directly without clicking a bunch of rates?

Thanks,

F.R.
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