stopovers on M&M award ticket
 

I am planning to spend some of my M&M miles on the *A award ticket. Could anyone kindly enlighten if a stopover(s) is permitted on this type of itinerary:

JFK-GIG-EZE/EZE-GIG-JFK all on Varig; would love to stopover in GIG on the way there & back. Would it be possible?

How about still a two-region award (North America->Australia region), with a possible stopover in between, in the 3rd region (South East Asia, e.g. Bangkok)?:

JFK-BKK(stopover?)-AKL/AKL-PPT(+stopover??)-LAX-JFK

thanks a million!!

Hi

Stopover allways maximum 1 for miles and more award.

regarding your second example: if you fly JFK BKK AKL you allready touch 3 region on the way to your turnaround and so it is a 3 region award.

Bye PEM

OttoPiloto, maybe this thread could be useful for you, too:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...stopover+award

PEM, attorney28, thank you for your replies!

This is exactly what I was looking for...Great info thread for this faq. ^

I just have one last question left:

What makes an award (N.AMERICA->S.E.ASIA->AUSTRALIA) into a "three-region award"? A mere fact of just transferring via and catching a connecting flight in the 3rd region (S.E.Asia in this case) or necessarily stopping over there?

Yes, there mere fact of just transfering makes it a 3-region award. Welcome to LH's wonderfull logic. So, if you fly Europe to Mexico just connecting in the US, that would be a 3-region too. :(

That's why many of us collect miles with more than just one loyalty program. In this forum, the only reason why many of us stay members of the illogical, rapidly devaluating and nerve-wrecking MM program is because we fly a lot of LH metal and because we occasionally travel on F and A (and to a lesser degree C,D and Z) fares. We offset our grieve against MM with a more logical and more generous program such as DC, DM or, as in my case, MP. And many of our Asia bound flyers also seem to hold SQ PPS status.

Yes just transfer. The only way to avoid in this case is use Austrian's through flight VIE to SYD/MEL (without stopover in SIN/KUL only transit), or NZ's through flight LHR to AKL (again without stopover in LAX only transit).

NZ also has some through flight numbers to Australia (one flight number but connecting service to the LHR-AKL direct flight).

From June 10th, none of these options has First class.

With NG I made a stopover in KUL without making it a three region award.

That's interesting. I was told a couple of months ago that I couldnt stopover on the direct flights for 2 region (NZ/Oz-Europe) award.

Has the rule changed?

Do i understand correctly that your flight pattern was VIE - KUL - SYD vv?
So the stop was booked at the beginning and issued that way?

If so it should have been 3 region award.

Bye PEM

I guess the thing with the NG award is:

If you fly only Europe-SYD without stop, it costs the same amount of miles (160k in Biz) as a 3-region Europe-KUL-SYD, so in this case, it doesn't really matter...

We flew VIE-x/KUL-MEL//SYD-KUL(stopover)-VIE.

AFAIR at that time 3-region was more expensive than Australia.

I booked an F award LHR/CGK and was allowed only one stopover for the whole trip. Was this correct? Would have been good to have one each way. If it is correct, I wonder why the restriction.

It is always just one stopover on any award trip.
Unless, of course, you do a RTW.

Ok, do I get this right?

Standard "two-region" award (REGION1 -> REGION2 -> REGION1):
allows destination stop in Region 2, plus one free stopover

Three-region award (REGION1 -> REGION2 -> REGION3 -> REGION1):
allows destination stops in both Region 2 AND Region 3, plus one free stopover

no?