The Definitive PAYBACK Thread

Old Oct 7, 05, 3:16 pm
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Just because LH divested its shares doesn't mean they will end their partnership. Amadeus is another example where they helped something to take off and then pulled out when it was big enough to sustain itself.
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Old Oct 7, 05, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by prollo
Lufthansa announced to sell their whole shares of (52,6%) of Loyalty Partner which is the owner of Payback. More details on http://www.manager-magazin.de/untern...377569,00.html
In this case it could be (I said could not must) that the partnership between Lufthansa and Payback will be canceled in the next days, weeks, months...
We will see...
Rolf
Sorry, no canceled in the next time.

Please read
"After the sale of its stake, Lufthansa will continue the successful cooperation between Miles & More and the PAYBACK bonus card programme operated by Loyalty Partner."

here

Hamburg

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Old Dec 9, 05, 12:55 am
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When shopping through the Payback Onlineshop, you´ll get double Payback points at AMAZON.de (till Dec 24th). (see www.payback.de for more info).

nice one ^
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Old Dec 9, 05, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by McKaye
When shopping through the Payback Onlineshop, you´ll get double Payback points at AMAZON.de (till Dec 24th). (see www.payback.de for more info).

nice one ^
But because of the 'Buchpreisbindung' not for ordering books.
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Old Dec 14, 05, 2:25 am
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Could you please explain what the 'Buchpreisbindung' is ?

My poor German tells me that the book price is fixed, is that right?

Why it is not possible to get °P points for Amazon book orders? Does it have anything to do with above? I know you can't get Payback points for buying books e.g. in Galeria Kaufhof. Is this the same case?

And if yes - how come you can get LH miles for ordering books from buch.de / bol.de ?

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Old Dec 14, 05, 2:31 am
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[QUOTE=Absik001]Could you please explain what the 'Buchpreisbindung' is ?

And if yes - how come you can get LH miles for ordering books from buch.de / bol.de ?

[QUOTE]

I guess the difference is that you can transform payback points directly into cash, which means the book is sold about 0.5-1% (don't know exactly) cheaper than somewhere else. This is not possible w/ LH miles though.
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Old Dec 14, 05, 2:38 am
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Kaufhof 10xpoints valid until 31.03.06

www.payback.de/kaufhofwelcome
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Old Dec 14, 05, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by Absik001
Could you please explain what the 'Buchpreisbindung' is ?

My poor German tells me that the book price is fixed, is that right?

Why it is not possible to get °P points for Amazon book orders? Does it have anything to do with above? I know you can't get Payback points for buying books e.g. in Galeria Kaufhof. Is this the same case?

And if yes - how come you can get LH miles for ordering books from buch.de / bol.de ?

Thanks
The prices of books in Germany are fixed, the publishers have the right, to set the prices. They are allowed to set specials prices for certain subscriptions, paperbacks, special editions. They are not allowed to give a discount to distributors and customers (exceptions are only books with certain damage, so called “angestoßen”) and especially not to big distributors who buy a big number of the same books (to protect the (small) book stores.

Payback can give the discount in money, so you are able to get some cents of the original prices, if you decided to change the Payback Points in Cash (possible a 1000 P or above). This would give you a discount of the original fixed price of the book and therefore is not allowed. Btw., Kaufhof etc. is not allowed to give you Payback Points for buying books, see the fineprint on the coupons and in the general terms and conditions of Payback.

In contrast Miles and More International is allowed to give you miles for books bought at Bol.de and buch.de, because you get miles, which you could not changes in cash. Therefore you did not get a discount (in money) of the original price of the book.

It is only a small difference but it is.

The interpretation of law is difficult in this points and several jurist interpret the law, that also not miles for books are allowed.
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Old Feb 21, 06, 1:34 am
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Old Mar 6, 06, 7:31 am
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Germanwings now charges 10 EUR for Payback points

My apologies if this has been posted before. Must be pretty new, though, because the charge was not there when I made my last booking a few days ago.

When you access the Germanwings website through one of its affiliate partners like payback they now charge you 10 EUR!

Time for a little math lesson, I think: 250 miles through Germanwings cost you 10 EUR, so 2000 miles (8 bookings) cost 80 EUR. When BUYING the miles from Lufthansa directly one would have to pay only 60 EUR for 2000 miles. How stupid do they think are we?
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Old Mar 6, 06, 8:01 am
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Hi,
where did you find this "new rule"?

I made a test booking just now to see what happenes -
but there is no additional charge for payback ??
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Old Mar 6, 06, 8:04 am
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That really bad, I always booked through zanox. That gave me 5 Euro "discount" on every booking, i.e. 10 Euro when you book your roundtrip in two bookings. Now they charge here 10 Euros per booking extra :-(

Let's hope it will work at least with hlx for some time...
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Old Mar 6, 06, 8:11 am
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maybe your "zanox" charges some money -
but payback did not at the moment (or maybe I'm blind now??)

why not tell us where this obscure website is?
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Old Mar 6, 06, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by A380-SQ
Hi,
where did you find this "new rule"?

I made a test booking just now to see what happenes -
but there is no additional charge for payback ??
After choosing a flight, you can see the "Buchungszuschlag" under the taxes and surchages. Look here: http://www.pictureupload.de/pictures...3_zuschlag.jpg

http://www.zanox.de/ ist somehow similar as payback, IMHO only better.

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Old Mar 6, 06, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by A380-SQ
where did you find this "new rule"?
It is hidden pretty well. When you access the site through Payback 10 EUR "Buchungszuschlag" will be added to the price. After reaching the third step of the booking process there is a small link on the left titled "Unsere Entgeltordnung für Extras". It leads to the following page:

https://www10.germanwings.com/de/meta_abb.html#1349

And that's where it says (among other things)

"AIF - Buchungszuschlag, der erhoben und gesondert zu dem angegebenen Flugpreis ausgewiesen wird bei der Vermittlung einer Internetbuchung durch einen Affiliate-Partner. - € 10.00 pro Buchung"
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