Lufthansa - Intra-Europe "Business" and Fat people

Old Sep 5, 23, 7:01 pm
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Lufthansa - Intra-Europe "Business" and Fat people

I'm looking at an SFO-PRG itinerary and while the SFO to FRA flight is a regular United business seat the second flight is an LH A320 from FRA to PRG.

I am what is politely called a "passenger of size". I certainly don't do well in a regular economy seat, but from what I understand is that inside Europe even the "Business class" seats are basically economy seats (as far as width goes) with the middle seats missing. Do the arms even go up? Or can Lufthansa simply not accommodate a "passenger of size" on a short-haul flight in Europe?
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Old Sep 5, 23, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by JakiChan
I'm looking at an SFO-PRG itinerary and while the SFO to FRA flight is a regular United business seat the second flight is an LH A320 from FRA to PRG.

I am what is politely called a "passenger of size". I certainly don't do well in a regular economy seat, but from what I understand is that inside Europe even the "Business class" seats are basically economy seats (as far as width goes) with the middle seats missing. Do the arms even go up? Or can Lufthansa simply not accommodate a "passenger of size" on a short-haul flight in Europe?
Yes it is a standard economy seat with the middle seat blocked. You should be able to lift the armrest up, although there is a tray table between the seats sometimes but the FA can easily remove it.

PRG is a short flight so hopefully it won't be too bad
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Old Sep 5, 23, 8:28 pm
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Yes it is a standard economy seat with the middle seat blocked. You should be able to lift the armrest up, although there is a tray table between the seats sometimes but the FA can easily remove it.

PRG is a short flight so hopefully it won't be too bad
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If the arm can go up it's fine (I fly SWA with their POS policy all the time) and it's only a 1hr flight, but if I have an option that has a "real" business/1st seat I'd prefer that.
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Old Sep 5, 23, 10:18 pm
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Dont select row 1 on the short haul hop, since that pretty much guarantees you a fixed armrest with the tray table inside it. Speak to the crew when you board and they should be able to remove the table blocking the B or E seat.
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Old Sep 5, 23, 10:44 pm
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Originally Posted by jamesbrownontheroad
Dont select row 1 on the short haul hop, since that pretty much guarantees you a fixed armrest with the tray table inside it. Speak to the crew when you board and they should be able to remove the table blocking the B or E seat.
or just book a seat in row 5 or above
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Old Sep 5, 23, 11:47 pm
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or just book a seat in row 5 or above
Assuming the C cabin is large enough for that. I've been a lot flights lately with smaller business cabins, but then also none had the fixed tables anyway.
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Old Sep 5, 23, 11:50 pm
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There is no alternative on that route (or even within Europe to my knowledge) that would offer wider seats.
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Old Sep 6, 23, 12:20 am
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SFO-(LAX,IAD,EWR)-VIE and then the train to Prague would offer a UA F seat on the initial connecting leg, and the nice Railjet Business class seats on OBB/CD. But I don't think that's worth it.
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Thanks, also learned something here. Customers of size get a free second seat at Southwest (you get it refunded after the trip)
https://www.southwest.com/help/booki...ra-seat-policy

That is pretty awesome and in a way a free intra European business class. I already see people arguing with mental size as they do with service animals :-)
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Originally Posted by JakiChan
If the arm can go up it's fine (I fly SWA with their POS policy all the time) and it's only a 1hr flight, but if I have an option that has a "real" business/1st seat I'd prefer that.
Arms can be lifted and only a few A321 have the fixed table in the first 3 rows, unlikely on your routing
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The trays in the middle seats are on 321 CEO only as they have to keep the total number of useable seats below 201 to avoid having a fifth flight attendant. Fixed armrests are in the first rows as well as 11A-C and 10EF (only relevant for OP when C is large). No trays on A320 or A321NEO.
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Originally Posted by hch
SFO-(LAX,IAD,EWR)-VIE and then the train to Prague would offer a UA F seat on the initial connecting leg, and the nice Railjet Business class seats on OBB/CD. But I don't think that's worth it.
Railjet business seats aren't that wide either - a bit wider than a plane seat, but on the other hand they have fixed armrests that can't be moved: https://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/...1/_DSC0243.jpg

There's also Regiojet service on this route, I think their business seats are a bit wider: https://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/...1/M1040032.jpg

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Old Sep 6, 23, 2:18 am
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Originally Posted by JakiChan
I'm looking at an SFO-PRG itinerary and while the SFO to FRA flight is a regular United business seat the second flight is an LH A320 from FRA to PRG.

I am what is politely called a "passenger of size". I certainly don't do well in a regular economy seat, but from what I understand is that inside Europe even the "Business class" seats are basically economy seats (as far as width goes) with the middle seats missing. Do the arms even go up? Or can Lufthansa simply not accommodate a "passenger of size" on a short-haul flight in Europe?
How far out of your way are you willing to fly for bigger Business Class seats? China Airlines, Emirates, and Qatar all serve SFO and PRG. Not sure if any of them publishes a through-fare though.
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How far out of your way are you willing to fly for bigger Business Class seats? China Airlines, Emirates, and Qatar all serve SFO and PRG. Not sure if any of them publishes a through-fare though.
Turkish Airlines would probably be the most sensible choice for this, as it's the shortest detour. And they usually do offer fares between EU and US.
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Old Sep 6, 23, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by JakiChan
I'm looking at an SFO-PRG itinerary and while the SFO to FRA flight is a regular United business seat the second flight is an LH A320 from FRA to PRG.

I am what is politely called a "passenger of size". I certainly don't do well in a regular economy seat, but from what I understand is that inside Europe even the "Business class" seats are basically economy seats (as far as width goes) with the middle seats missing. Do the arms even go up? Or can Lufthansa simply not accommodate a "passenger of size" on a short-haul flight in Europe?
Just took similar flight to and from Budapest on LH last week on same aircraft type. The seats are narrow, but you can lift the arm up between seats. There's no tray between seats. It's truly a regular economy thin narrow seat with just the middle seat blocked.
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