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Passenger with peanut allergy buys all catered BOB peanuts on EW flight

Old Aug 8, 23, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by uanj
I don't know anyone with a serious peanut allergy. If you suffer from this type of allergy, how do you prepare for a flight?

From my point of view of near total ignorance on the subject, based on this passenger's course of action which essentially removes peanuts from the cabin it sounds like peanuts should be banned on board. Yet no airline or regulator has done that. And I am sure many people are bringing on board products containing peanuts or tree nuts. I am quite confused....
No, they should not be banned. It is impossible to take precautions for every abnormality and have the majority restrain themselves. Sad as the passenger's allergy may be - it is she who needs to make adjustments. She did what she deemed necessary. So she proved it is possible.
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Old Aug 8, 23, 1:55 pm
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Allergies can be serious, but banning food products is a step too far. Where does it end? Can a person who exclusively eat vegan meals ask that all meals containing animal products should not be served?
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Old Aug 8, 23, 2:56 pm
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Now you've done it. Soon, HONs with an allergy for cheap champagne will be forced to buy the whole onboard stock of boxed bubbly.

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Old Aug 8, 23, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by uanj
I have flown millions of miles on US airlines and never heard this once.
I've heard it three times I think (give or take one) on US domestic flights. Don't recall which airline(s).
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Old Aug 8, 23, 8:16 pm
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Once again, the criteria is it would have to be aerosolized and I would also have to breathe it in. Still risk is extremely low and I've been living with this for many years.

Also people should be carrying an epi-pen which they don't have the time anyway.

Btw this says ingestion of 100 ug. Once again the odds are extremely low of this happening. Speaking from personal experience here.

In that example with the BA, the peanut dust was definitely released. Thankfully hummus is not "dusty"
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Old Aug 9, 23, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by uanj
it sounds like peanuts should be banned on board
On what grounds? Should we maintain a surgical-grade sterile environment inside commercial aircraft whenever an immunocompromised person needs or wants to fly?

​​​​​​If it truly is a matter of life-and-death, you cannot rely on the common public to follow any of the directives. Someone will inevitably fail to comply, consciously or not. Thus, you need to take precautions yourself (e.g. wearing a mask, carrying an epipen, flying private, not travelling at all). If it is not a matter of life-and-death, then you shouldn't even think about disturbing fellow passengers in the first place. Goes without saying, in the vast majority of cases it is not a matter of life-and-death, just sheer entitlement.

I don't like peanuts and never eat them, but that is entirely beside the point. Hopefully European carriers (and society at large) will not follow their American counterpart on these matters. It starts with the peanuts and it ends with emotional support chickens on board.
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Old Aug 9, 23, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by mmff
On what grounds? Should we maintain a surgical-grade sterile environment inside commercial aircraft whenever an immunocompromised person needs or wants to fly?

​​​​​​If it truly is a matter of life-and-death, you cannot rely on the common public to follow any of the directives. Someone will inevitably fail to comply, consciously or not. Thus, you need to take precautions yourself (e.g. wearing a mask, carrying an epipen, flying private, not travelling at all). If it is not a matter of life-and-death, then you shouldn't even think about disturbing fellow passengers in the first place. Goes without saying, in the vast majority of cases it is not a matter of life-and-death, just sheer entitlement.

I don't like peanuts and never eat them, but that is entirely beside the point. Hopefully European carriers (and society at large) will not follow their American counterpart on these matters. It starts with the peanuts and it ends with emotional support horses and chickens on board.
You deleted some of my post! Relax, I am not advocating banning peanuts, to the contrary. I was trying (and apparently unsuccessfully) to bring this to a logical yet ineffective conclusion which is peanuts may need to be banned if you use this example of a passenger, with what seems to be a common food allergy, needing to remove them herself by purchasing the entire lot. I totally agree with you, regardless of what airlines serve or don't serve there is simply no way to keep such a common food item off planes and it is downright dangerous to rely on public compliance. I think I even said that in another post....

I was genuinely inquiring what the law is in Europe or the UK. US airlines do not guarantee an allergen-free environment and are quite clear about it. Here Are the Nut Policies of Five Major U.S. Airlines (travelmarketreport.com)
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Old Aug 9, 23, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by mmff
Hopefully European carriers (and society at large) will not follow their American counterpart on these matters. It starts with the peanuts and it ends with emotional support chickens on board.
It's actually a European airline (BA) that has the most accommodating policies towards food-allergic passengers. The reason for this most probably is that BA actually had a passenger die from an allergic reaction towards airport food consumed on a flight in 2016 (the Natasha Ednan-Laperouse incident - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-45617845) and adjusted their policies in the aftermath. There's quite a few threads on here about these :Allergies - when too much or No Nuts please
The lady buying the peanuts on Eurowings probably expected this behaviour to be typical of all airlines, where it clearly isn't, not even on US ones. AA has a very clear language about this, saying:
Although we dont serve peanuts, we do serve other nut products (such as warmed nuts) and there may be trace elements of unspecified nut ingredient, including peanut oils, in meals and snacks. Additionally, other customers can bring peanuts or other tree nuts on board.We cant accommodate requests to not serve certain foods or to provide nut buffer zones. Our planes are cleaned regularly, but cant guarantee the removal of nut allergens on surfaces or in the air filters. Because of this, we cant guarantee you wont be exposed to peanuts or other tree nuts during flight, and we strongly encourage those with allergies to take all necessary medical precautions before flying.
I used to be the object of allergy issues twice in a decade and a few 100k miles of flying with my service dog (other passengers objecting to her presence, claiming allergies) , but those could be mitigated with proper separation - one time, this had me retreating from the F cabin on an AA 773 to the rear of the business class cabin so a fellow passenger could enjoy his flight he paid $6k for in his seat without having to wear masks and PPE. I needn't have done this, as on US airlines the priority is very clear - it's the passenger with the dog who stays and the passenger with the allergy who leaves. Choose to rather not be a selfish idiot there.
And AA eliminating peanuts from their nut mix a few years ago surely has something to do with this, as peanuts are much cheaper than the almonds they were replacing them with.
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