LH421 27JUN and police checks tonight
Jun 29, 22, 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
CBP is not 'police' they are a federal agency who can check departing flights. They have a variety of dogs at their disposal, the dogs sniffing departing pax are usually trained to detect cash. Inbound they sniff for fruit/meat or drugs.
If the CPB think that a certain flight has a high number of passengers that may contravene with immigration (overstay visa, not stay more than 180d/year on green cards etc) or customs (>10000$ in cash etc) they do spot checks in the jetway. In DTW is normal for LH flights, I've seen similar situations in ATL & PHX on flights leaving for Mexico. For more such reports please go to this part of the forum: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chec...cy-debate-687/
The fact that there was CPB checking departing pax on your flight has nothing to do with the mess the LH longhaul operation was in the last few days. Also I would not assume that LH takes the decision to do an empty ferry flight lightly. Besides the cost of the ferry flight, rebooking/accomodating the stranded pax is a massive loss for the company.
If the CPB think that a certain flight has a high number of passengers that may contravene with immigration (overstay visa, not stay more than 180d/year on green cards etc) or customs (>10000$ in cash etc) they do spot checks in the jetway. In DTW is normal for LH flights, I've seen similar situations in ATL & PHX on flights leaving for Mexico. For more such reports please go to this part of the forum: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chec...cy-debate-687/
The fact that there was CPB checking departing pax on your flight has nothing to do with the mess the LH longhaul operation was in the last few days. Also I would not assume that LH takes the decision to do an empty ferry flight lightly. Besides the cost of the ferry flight, rebooking/accomodating the stranded pax is a massive loss for the company.
First, my observation is not that there was a spot check- it was the show of force and aggressiveness that was over the top. Perhaps it was merited, perhaps it was show. Who knows. But CBP is generally high on the aggressive scale.
Second, I never suggested the cancellation had anything to do with security checks.
Last edited by bostontraveler; Jun 29, 22 at 5:31 am
Jun 29, 22, 6:28 am
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CBP does a strong social, cultural and racial profiling. Social profiling against illegal immigration. Cultural profiling against terrorist threats. Racial profiling against criminals. It’s not common, that a white First class passenger from Europe faces any kind of aggressiveness. The aggressiveness against a black Eco passenger from Sudan is intended. It’s not right, but is that how most boarder protection units in this world work.
Jun 29, 22, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by thbe
CBP does a strong social, cultural and racial profiling. Social profiling against illegal immigration. Cultural profiling against terrorist threats. Racial profiling against criminals. It’s not common, that a white First class passenger from Europe faces any kind of aggressiveness. The aggressiveness against a black Eco passenger from Sudan is intended. It’s not right, but is that how most boarder protection units in this world work.
And it's not always with foreigners. I also have US passport and have been subject to questioning multiple times (sometimes intrusive). And no, it wasn't merited.
I know Americans often get bent out of shape when anyone criticizes anything about the US but CBP is not exactly always super professional and is often very aggressive and looking to provoke. More so than in other countries. I've never had those experiences elsewhere in the world except in Israel.
That's my experience. Doesn't mean it's the absolute truth, just my experience, that's all.
Anyway we digress...
Jun 29, 22, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by Ghoulish
It's an entrance test. If you can't handle being verbally roughed up a bit at the border, you'll have little chance on the streets.
Apologies for the slow processing... sleep deprivation will do that to you
Jun 29, 22, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by bostontraveler
…But CBP is generally high on the aggressive scale.
Second, I never suggested the cancellation had anything to do with security checks.
Second, I never suggested the cancellation had anything to do with security checks.
On the positive, CBP has been told disband their “secret” internal cover-up teams (CIT) - who knows if they actually will. Unfortunately, news of their actions down here rarely make it out of the border states. Except for when they becomes heros’ and stop a school shooter
Jun 29, 22, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by thbe
CBP does a strong social, cultural and racial profiling. Social profiling against illegal immigration. Cultural profiling against terrorist threats. Racial profiling against criminals. It’s not common, that a white First class passenger from Europe faces any kind of aggressiveness. The aggressiveness against a black Eco passenger from Sudan is intended. It’s not right, but is that how most boarder protection units in this world work.
Travel alone as a single white male from anywhere in Asia and see how welcoming CBP is upon return.
Somehow I don't think the single Asian female tourist is treated with the same suspicion.
Jun 30, 22, 1:01 am
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Originally Posted by bostontraveler
..Since when is this routine?…
Jun 30, 22, 1:54 am
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Oh dear... since this has evolved into a border policy debate, you are welcome to continue the discussion in that forum.
Regards Oliver2002
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