Shocking Anti Semitic incident

Old Sep 21, 22, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by weero View Post
"..endorse definition as part of global engagement gainst racism"

So if you gain (or gainst) something from it, it's ok ?
Sounds a bit like our banking system in the late days of The Great Patriotic War.


"Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property"
So criticizing anyone or their stuff is now antisemitic ?
That's tough for someone who complains all the time, such as I.
https://www.holocaustremembrance.com...n-antisemitism will give a better understanding of this move to those who care to read it.
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Old Sep 21, 22, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Mrp Alert View Post
https://www.holocaustremembrance.com...n-antisemitism will give a better understanding of this move to those who care to read it.
Thanks for this.

So they do use the same illogical and overrreaching definition as LH did in the above article:
"Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals"

Not only do they define "antisemitism" by using "antisemitism" but also expand the definition to all all Jewish & non-Jewish - i.e. everyone - individuals.

I don't want to comment on the motives and the agenda of this organsiation but I find it frustrating that all these grievance institutions find it necessary to lay claim to unreasonably broad territory, It's almost as if they feared the loss of revenue or influence if they stuck to their competences.
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Old Nov 6, 22, 10:48 am
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Defendant Deutsche Lufthansa AG (Lufthansa) in this matter and submit this letter to advise the Court that the parties have agreed to a settlement in principle
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Originally Posted by weero View Post
"..endorse definition as part of global engagement gainst racism"

So if you gain (or gainst) something from it, it's ok ?
Sounds a bit like our banking system in the late days of The Great Patriotic War.


"Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property"
So criticizing anyone or their stuff is now antisemitic ?
That's tough for someone who complains all the time, such as I.

No it is not that. Example: My hairdresser told me (I am not Jewish) on a derogatory tone that the Swiss supermarket Migros was held by Jews (Migros' bank subsidiary had refused to grant him a loan). It is complete non sense (Migros is a cooperative) and anti-Semitic. Although it was directed to a non Jewish person (me), it falls under the scope of the definition.
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Old Nov 7, 22, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by Nic33 View Post
.. My hairdresser told me (I am not Jewish) on a derogatory tone that the Swiss supermarket Migros was held by Jews (Migros' bank subsidiary had refused to grant him a loan). It is complete non sense (Migros is a cooperative) and anti-Semitic. Although it was directed to a non Jewish person (me), it falls under the scope of the definition.
So he was wrong ....

That doesn't solve the issue that this group defines "antisemitic" by using the term "antisemitic". You at least make an enfort to circumscribe it.

And while there are obvious antisemitic events in history, definining it in a modern context is quite tricky and usually strongly divided along the two main political camps in the US. To me BDS and critique of the State of Israel are plainly antisemitic but I know quite a few people who do not see it like that.
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Old Nov 7, 22, 1:21 pm
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I'd be fascinated to know how much they paid out.
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Old Nov 7, 22, 8:16 pm
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I'd be fascinated to know how much they paid out.
So would i, for sure its a lot of Spondoolies
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Old Nov 9, 22, 5:08 pm
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So would i, for sure its a lot of Spondoolies
I sure hope not.
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Old Nov 10, 22, 2:25 pm
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a few million in total
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a few million in total
Indonesian Rupiahs perhaps.
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I can't find any evidence of a lawsuit being filed - so the only documented compensation so far is passengers received a handwritten apology, refund of the ticket, refund of any additional expenses and the EU compensation of €600.

Source: https://liveandletsfly.com/lufthansa-jewish-lawsuit/
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Old Nov 11, 22, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by 8420PR View Post
I can't find any evidence of a lawsuit being filed - so the only documented compensation so far is passengers received a handwritten apology, refund of the ticket, refund of any additional expenses and the EU compensation of 600.
Source: https://liveandletsfly.com/lufthansa-jewish-lawsuit/
Check the US court records. That besides a direct settlement with the other pax to avoid the court altogether
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Old Nov 29, 22, 11:00 am
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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/news/...sco-frankfurt/
Sources tell me that the airline has agreed to settle for $20,000 plus $1,000 to cover expenses related to the incident. The law firm that negotiated that settlement is taking 18% of the $20,000, leaving passengers with $16,400 plus $1,000 to cover expenses, for a total of $17,400 per passenger.

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Old Nov 30, 22, 6:23 am
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LL & OMAAT have also picked up the story again.

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LALF has also joined in, giving the internet an extra opportunity to react/comment

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Old Nov 30, 22, 10:38 am
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Really exposes the "legal experts" who post here.
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