chris63

You need a lot of time for all that with the Covid checks & be able to enter DE & be up to navigating FRA, as you say, it’s unfriendly & that’s their offer to F & HON pax

Lots of pax will need a glass of something very strong at the bar, if they made it to FCT

SFO777

Indeed. Meanwhile over at CDG, Air France figured this out a long time ago and provides seamless, pampered transfer service for La Première passengers, even during the peak of the Covid frenzy. LH isn't (and quite frankly was never) in the same F service league as AF.

Jaenks

I always chose transfer to B gates when coming from apron. If you can be driven out, you can be driven in.

No to turning it into FCZoo! Some may like to be in crowded places but FCT should not be that place. To get in to AF LA Premiere lounge, to have the money is not enough to buy the entrance, same applies to Concorde room or Flagship First.

hugolover

I was referring to ISTFlyer's idea for the FCL('s).

Jaenks

If purchasing or redeeming the ticket is out of the budget then maybe that is not the right place to be? When F lounge experience is so important, then in one trip can combine MUC F lounge, FRA FCL/FCT and LX ZRH F.

chris63

FRAPORT & Border Police wouldn’t allow that, for FCT , so I was always told, sure that will remain the case.

FCL A has a door to Z , would have been far easier to set up a temporary border control a la MUC at Z & you have Schengen & non Schengen covered, however that would require some imagination & knowledge of pax needs, clearly neither LH Or FRAPORT have even a modicum of that

Jaenks

Yes, I have heard it too. A really dumb decision. "A walk of shape" from Terminal to FCT, on the same time BMW 7s keep going back and forth at CDG.

chris63

Walk of shape ?

That must be it, LH thinks that those of us who are able to enjoy the fruits of a FCL need more exercise

Meanwhile, over at AF & CDG those similar F pax headed for Alain Ducasse dining need to be driven in BMW 7’s, but isn’t it only LH that claims to be the 5* airline ?

Jaenks

Yes, LH/LX F flyers and HONs do not have " A walk of shame" in FRA, they have " A walk of shape"
You know, that is a cardio thing . Maybe they should mark the way?

chris63

Indeed, they could put up a notice at the entrance for connecting pax, if you managed to get here from A , Z , B or C , Bravo ! You burnt x calories & now if you consume only water in the FCT you will bank that calorie loss & save LH x EUR ......thanks, your 5* airline.....

hugolover

CDG (might) be lovely transiting between the terminals, but actually getting to CDG is another story, a total
disaster.

SFO777

Not when your La Premiere limo drops you off at La Premiere check in.

Fabo.sk

I was refering to short-lived option to buy into FCL, not FCT. In this case ideally FCL B to help get that one open.

Or perhaps purchasing or redeeming an F ticket is simply not an option (shorthaul, non-F destinations), or we would simply like to combine experiencing FCL and helping y'all super important people not stay pissed that the only lounge open is in A (or out of the terminal altogether)...


Transiting between the terminals in CDG might be lovely in La Premiere limo... other than that... mon dieu.

As long as you leave in advance enough

Jaenks

Another bitter "wannabe" who wants to be a "super important person" and the only way is FCL. What all one could do with imagination!? Nor FCL or FCT has not build from rubber to have a flexibility. There is a occupancy limit and there are a requirements to enter. Your monetary help offer is priceless. Instead look from time to time M&M meeting thread where "super important people" are hth and after their guesting confirmation, purchase intra Europe ticket to same flight. Prepare for their flight schedule changes, it happens.

Fabo.sk

Not caring too much to appear important, I've done exactly that at times. Strangely enough, it was more appropriate apparently even though it brought the operating airline exactly nothing. I suppose the stamp of approval of a random guy from the internet that some generous people were willing to give was enough at time. In retrospect, I'd like to apologize for my arrogance in walking the hallowed halls, unwashed mass that I am (on the other hand, I did make use of the showers, so I left the washed mass), but having to warn you, you might still have to content with the risk of meeting me in an intra-Europe business class cabin. At least the middle seat is always free.

As for the capacity constraints, that's not a relevant argument. Even if the product did actually become popular (all of the reports from the period of paid access, scant as they are, mention the FCL staff seeing the voucher for the first time - clearly, no masses of takers), LH is more than capable of predicting the usage and limiting the sale of lounge vouchers to maintain a pleasant occupancy rate.