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Old Sep 16, 20, 7:50 am
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A shame really, her input was always interesting to read.
Maybe one should try to win her over for FT. The discussion around here tends to be a bit more civilized.
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Old Sep 16, 20, 7:52 am
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Old Sep 16, 20, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by funkydrummer View Post
Maybe one should try to win her over for FT. The discussion around here tends to be a bit more civilized.
I and another user actually tried We'll have to see...

PS: I'll keep trying
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Old Sep 16, 20, 7:59 am
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Wow Annette is really good. Love her responses. They make sense and aren't the usual copy/paste responses from airline reps.
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Old Sep 16, 20, 8:00 am
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Curious, what's the logic between having the Schengen FCL in A open but not the non-Schengen in B? I'd imagine as low as travel numbers are, more people would be flying F on the more premium non-Sch out of Europe routes, while within Europe there's no real first class? I'd think the other way around would make more sense. The FCT being closed I can understand, but any plans on the B FCL to reopen?
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Old Sep 16, 20, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by NickRivas View Post
Curious, what's the logic between having the Schengen FCL in A open but not the non-Schengen in B? I'd imagine as low as travel numbers are, more people would be flying F on the more premium non-Sch out of Europe routes, while within Europe there's no real first class? I'd think the other way around would make more sense. The FCT being closed I can understand, but any plans on the B FCL to reopen?
You forget the HONs.

Also I'm not sure but most intl. flights leave from the Z/C Gates I think, FCL A is much closer tho those than FCL B. SO FCL A covers HONS flyign in Schengen as well as most F and HONs departing from Z and C because that's just a short walk from the lounge.

I wouldn't expect it to open anytime soon.
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Old Sep 16, 20, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by Nick Art View Post
You forget the HONs.

Also I'm not sure but most intl. flights leave from the Z/C Gates I think, FCL A is much closer tho those than FCL B. SO FCL A covers HONS flyign in Schengen as well as most F and HONs departing from Z and C because that's just a short walk from the lounge.

I wouldn't expect it to open anytime soon.
HON in DE is the point but itís not good for F pax or HON that are not allowed to enter Schengen & the C gates are kilometres from FCL A
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Old Sep 16, 20, 2:40 pm
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Not sure if someone already mentioned this. Iím really glad I no longer need to rely on the old and shabby Fraport facilities
I can confirm, no one mentioned yet that you are really glad you don't longer need to rely on the old and shabby Fraport facilities...
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Old Sep 16, 20, 7:20 pm
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Not sure if someone already mentioned this. Iím really glad I no longer need to rely on the old and shabby Fraport facilities
Awesome!
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Old Sep 16, 20, 8:06 pm
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Be advised, there's a lot of circular discussion and derails in those threads....
On an Internet forum? Shocking.
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Old Sep 16, 20, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by funkydrummer View Post
Maybe one should try to win her over for FT. The discussion around here tends to be a bit more civilized.
She knows of us... sadly most of the crowd here is flying on purchased AV miles And the serious road warrior FTer is at grounded and not posting much...
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Old Sep 17, 20, 2:23 am
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Originally Posted by funkydrummer View Post
I am not a HON but I followed the discussion on the German-language VFT forum between several HON and a LH executive (Annette Mann). The exec made quite clear that it's pretty unlikely the limo transfers are coming back anytime soon.
Hmm, LH board member Mrs Foerster gave me during our long phone conversation a bit better hope.
As she explained, limo service in FRA is based on FCT and it is very difficult for them to make it without FCT. But they are working on it and we can hope on October but will see.
Anyway to resume the service they need more than 50 HON per day.

Currently it is funny that even LO is offering in WAW very nice limo service and if airplane is on the gate, even then asssitant will escort tou to plane without any que. So currently LO ground experience is way better than LH.
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Old Sep 17, 20, 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by Raul_R View Post
Hmm, LH board member Mrs Foerster gave me during our long phone conversation a bit better hope.
As she explained, limo service in FRA is based on FCT and it is very difficult for them to make it without FCT. But they are working on it and we can hope on October but will see.
Anyway to resume the service they need more than 50 HON per day.
Interesting! Nevertheless, in my view a resumption in October is still a fairly long shot. I'd be willing to bet against it. HON and F travel is still in the doldrums. I just don't see the economic viability of the service.

Two little pieces of news seemed noteworthy to me yesterday. One, the recovery is still firmly driven by mid-haul tourism travel. There was a LH PR release which confirmed as much (Hohmeister is being cited as the recovery still being substantially stronger in the tourism sector; it included an announcement of 15 new mid-haul routes solely focused on tourist destinations). Two, apparently CS said in a teleconference with employees yesterday that October bookings are catastrophically low, around 10 per cent the level of last year. It seems to me it's primarily the business sector which is again postponing meetings and conferences that's driving this. And, ofc, with F largely out of the picture, if you have few HON business travellers, who are you going to serve with a limo service, an FCT, a FRA FCL B, or a ZRH FCL E?
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Old Sep 17, 20, 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by funkydrummer View Post
Maybe one should try to win her over for FT. The discussion around here tends to be a bit more civilized.
I agree, that's why I am not a big fan of VFT.

Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
She knows of us... sadly most of the crowd here is flying on purchased AV miles And the serious road warrior FTer is at grounded and not posting much...
So it the crowd over on VFT spending more money / M&M miles compared to the "AV miles" gang over here?

Just sayin... I've been grounded for the last 8 months, and my corporate travel policy stipulates Y and PE (if you are lucky) only, regardless where you need to go. So I don't really fit into any of the categories mentioned here.
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Old Sep 17, 20, 3:16 am
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I said 'most of the crowd'
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