M&M in post Covid 19 world

Old Mar 30, 20, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by hugolover View Post
If we are to save the world from the threat to civilisation far greater than Chinese Flu, the climate EMERGENCY, then I can only hope the public realise all those planes, those cheap imported goods are not necessary.
Will see.
I think, that after this all is over, _climate emergency_ will be one of the last things to what states and companies will find funds.
Those planes will not stay on ground for sure. And aviation itself is far not too bad as some people would like to promote. Until there will be same CO2 and other bad things to air in China, India etc etc, no sense to ground planes. Effect is not worth of the damage.

But I do agree with you, that ultra-cheap airtickets may go away. And I also think, that this is not a bad thing.
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Old Mar 30, 20, 2:48 pm
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Old Mar 31, 20, 12:39 am
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Originally Posted by Raul_R View Post
But I do agree with you, that ultra-cheap airtickets may go away. And I also think, that this is not a bad thing.
I'm totally fine with the end of budget travel. Budget travelers have ruined so many destinations that once had unique shops and eateries, and were driven out of business due to the demand of cheap tourists who won't spend more than 5 on a meal. I know many places in Italy that once had charming little restaurants and crafting shops that employed locals, and now they're characterless kebab shops.
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Old Mar 31, 20, 7:47 am
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I really know what you mean. Last year I went back to some places in Italy which I had not visited in 15 years and all the nice places had disappeared, replaced by the usual faceless stuff. What I am hoping is that some compromise can be made going forward, so that tourism can be enjoyed (and it brings in valuable money for many places) but not so destructive. And similarly for M&M, I hope some compromise can be found between keeping the FFP going with being able to enjoy redeeming for awards and it being something that can help Lufthansa and pals get back on their feet (i.e. a bit of devaluation, somehow, is to be expected I fear).
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Old Apr 1, 20, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by Concerto View Post
I What I am hoping is that some compromise can be made going forward, so that tourism can be enjoyed (and it brings in valuable money for many places) but not so destructive..
Appears easyjet joined LX in asking government subsidies , eliminating LCC would lead to less destructive quality tourism. Hope they will not get the money.
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Old Apr 1, 20, 4:24 pm
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Are you referring to easyJet Switzerland SA asking for help from the Swiss confederation? Or the main, British easyJet?

It's a tricky one, this. There's some weird stuff going on at easyJet at the moment. Has to be said, that haven't behaved brilliantly recently, but to be fair, which airline has? Also, they don't have an expensive (in their words, years ago) frequent flyer program to fund. I am no easyJet fan, due to some shenanigans years ago, and I never will be. But I think they are quite well placed to come through this.
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Old Apr 2, 20, 3:42 am
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Originally Posted by Concerto View Post
Are you referring to easyJet Switzerland SA asking for help from the Swiss confederation?
https://www.cash.ch/news/politik/cor...shilfe-1514472 easyjet Switzerland which claim to be a Swiss airline like LX . They were the first to stop flying completely and ruined the market in GVA. At least LX is continuing and really useful now.

Ironically the socialist party is against helping easyjet even their clientele possibly most using the cheap weekend shopping/partying flights. Only the greens are totally against unless kerosene is taxed and the whole airline sector becoming smaller.

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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:10 am
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Covid19 related devaluation of M&M?

My apologies, if this is redundant, but I could not find a more recent thread on the following topic: What I really wonder, is what is going to happen to M&M?

Given that the German government will likely take a stake in the airline and that the primary concern will be to preserve the it, M&M could be (partially) sacrificed. This is something that many of you may have wondered as well: What is going to happen to the value of your miles (in my case just under 1m) and before M&M gets sacrificed to save the airline, I wonder if I should go ahead and buy myself 5 ipads to at least get something for my miles (I have done this for my flyingblue miles already, and am going ahead on BA as well - in the latter case, it is a long-term car rental...)... I certainly do not see flights on the horizon in the nearterm, am already scrambling to recover >5k EUR in paid tickets for cancelled flights and am shooting my SEN requalification into outer space... Any thoughts?

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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by prefers1a View Post
My apologies, if this is redundant, but I could not find a more recent thread on the following topic: What I really wonder, is what is going to happen to M&M?
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Old Apr 6, 20, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by prefers1a View Post
My apologies, if this is redundant, but I could not find a more recent thread on the following topic: What I really wonder, is what is going to happen to M&M?

Given that the German government will likely take a stake in the airline and that the primary concern will be to preserve the it, M&M could be (partially) sacrificed. This is something that many of you may have wondered as well: What is going to happen to the value of your miles (in my case just under 1m) and before M&M gets sacrificed to save the airline, I wonder if I should go ahead and buy myself 5 ipads to at least get something for my miles (I have done this for my flyingblue miles already, and am going ahead on BA as well - in the latter case, it is a long-term car rental...)... I certainly do not see flights on the horizon in the nearterm, am already scrambling to recover >5k EUR in paid tickets for cancelled flights and am shooting my SEN requalification into outer space... Any thoughts?
I do not think it may reduce M&M.
FFP is not made for expense, it is made for profit!
It is very expensive to make it work from start, but when it works, it is very good marketing tool.
For myself -- other carriers may offer me tickets with half price, I still choose LH. Because M&M and benefits it give me.
OK, I am HON and basicly none of airlines around here in Europe also are able to offer me even similar comfort.
But I usually took LH also, when I was SEN. Because flying with LH did generate me miles and some benefits.

Miles&More is one of biggest Frequent Flyer Programs and it I am sure it works as good marketing tool for LH for sure and also for other participiant airlines.

But of course, nothing else than death and taxes can be 100% sure in this world.
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