Bye bye SEN, hello KF [SQ]*G
Feb 29, 20, 12:39 pm
#1
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: DE
Posts: 244
Bye bye SEN, hello KF [SQ]*G
I'm losing my SEN status tonight. While I rarely choose LH group for long hauls, a good chunk of my short-haul flights are on LH group. All in eco, 95% eco light.
So what changes do you expect the change will bring to me in terms of elite benefits. (I did figure out I won't earn miles when flying LH in K--that doesn't worry me, 50/157 redeemable/status miles per flight is next to nothing.)
I know I'll find out sooner or later, so I hope you don't find I'm showing too much impatience with this thread. (Not scheduled to fly LH group until Mar. 23, until then I got nothing but a few AF-KL flights.)
So what changes do you expect the change will bring to me in terms of elite benefits. (I did figure out I won't earn miles when flying LH in K--that doesn't worry me, 50/157 redeemable/status miles per flight is next to nothing.)
I know I'll find out sooner or later, so I hope you don't find I'm showing too much impatience with this thread. (Not scheduled to fly LH group until Mar. 23, until then I got nothing but a few AF-KL flights.)
Last edited by Comatose.Captain; Feb 29, 20 at 12:44 pm
Feb 29, 20, 2:18 pm
#2
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: RU/UA
Posts: 7,559
ASR with LOT on Saver fares and above. ASR in preferred zone and exit with LH Group on Classic and above.
SEN lounge access on arrival, excluding LOT.
SEN guest + your family under 18 at LH lounges + LOT.
SEN Companion Award
eVouchers
Delights to Go in MUC-but works with your FTL
Welcome Lounge on arrival in Y/P.
ZRH Arrivals (but your FTL would give you access)
Still get your extra bag on LOT including Saver as Gold. Nothing on LH Group Light except for long haul where as a "goodwill" you get one bag (same as SEN).
Apart from the above its not really a big deal. And anyway, according to the experts here, you're saving Helga a load in lounge fees cos the issuing FFP programme pays for that.
SEN lounge access on arrival, excluding LOT.
SEN guest + your family under 18 at LH lounges + LOT.
SEN Companion Award
eVouchers
Delights to Go in MUC-but works with your FTL
Welcome Lounge on arrival in Y/P.
ZRH Arrivals (but your FTL would give you access)
Still get your extra bag on LOT including Saver as Gold. Nothing on LH Group Light except for long haul where as a "goodwill" you get one bag (same as SEN).
Apart from the above its not really a big deal. And anyway, according to the experts here, you're saving Helga a load in lounge fees cos the issuing FFP programme pays for that.
Mar 1, 20, 3:07 am
#3
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: DE
Posts: 244
@hugolover:
Thanks a lot for that list!
A bunch of things on there I wasn't aware of at all.
It's still my understanding the ASR thingy doesn't really come into play for me, as I hardly fly anything but intra-European Eco Light on LH group. But it's still a valid point.
Thinking about this further, I think I'm losing the SEN hotline as well. I rarely used it but I am aware that wait times can sometimes be considerably shorter. There doesn't seem to be any preferential treatment for *G--over the phone, you gotta rough it out in the waiting queue with general pax.
I am also wondering about other soft benefits such as seat blocking. As SEN, on the rare occasions I flew LH group short-haul business, I was able to select seats in row 1. During my usual trips in short-haul eco light on LH group, I was almost always able to get a seat in exit row or an aisle seat in the preferred zone. And when flying solo, often times, the middle seat next to me remained empty.
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Addendum: I guess in some scenarios, it's risky to use the alternatives available to me as FTL. For instance, I guess I could call the service phone no. for FTL but there's a chance they'll mess around with the FFN in the booking. Same as with using the welcome lounge as FTL. They could change the FFN to M&M so miles end up being credited there which I would find undesirable.
Thanks a lot for that list!
A bunch of things on there I wasn't aware of at all.
It's still my understanding the ASR thingy doesn't really come into play for me, as I hardly fly anything but intra-European Eco Light on LH group. But it's still a valid point.
Thinking about this further, I think I'm losing the SEN hotline as well. I rarely used it but I am aware that wait times can sometimes be considerably shorter. There doesn't seem to be any preferential treatment for *G--over the phone, you gotta rough it out in the waiting queue with general pax.
I am also wondering about other soft benefits such as seat blocking. As SEN, on the rare occasions I flew LH group short-haul business, I was able to select seats in row 1. During my usual trips in short-haul eco light on LH group, I was almost always able to get a seat in exit row or an aisle seat in the preferred zone. And when flying solo, often times, the middle seat next to me remained empty.
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Addendum: I guess in some scenarios, it's risky to use the alternatives available to me as FTL. For instance, I guess I could call the service phone no. for FTL but there's a chance they'll mess around with the FFN in the booking. Same as with using the welcome lounge as FTL. They could change the FFN to M&M so miles end up being credited there which I would find undesirable.
Last edited by Comatose.Captain; Mar 1, 20 at 3:16 am
Mar 3, 20, 1:56 am
#7
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Originally Posted by Arnur
Pardon my ignorance, but what is KF*G? KF used to be the code for Blue1, if I remember correctly.
Mar 3, 20, 2:45 am
#8
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Bonn, Germany
Programs: TK Elite, LH FTL
Posts: 622
Originally Posted by Comatose.Captain
@hugolover:
I am also wondering about other soft benefits such as seat blocking. As SEN, on the rare occasions I flew LH group short-haul business, I was able to select seats in row 1. During my usual trips in short-haul eco light on LH group, I was almost always able to get a seat in exit row or an aisle seat in the preferred zone. And when flying solo, often times, the middle seat next to me remained empty.
I am also wondering about other soft benefits such as seat blocking. As SEN, on the rare occasions I flew LH group short-haul business, I was able to select seats in row 1. During my usual trips in short-haul eco light on LH group, I was almost always able to get a seat in exit row or an aisle seat in the preferred zone. And when flying solo, often times, the middle seat next to me remained empty.
Originally Posted by Comatose.Captain
Addendum: I guess in some scenarios, it's risky to use the alternatives available to me as FTL. For instance, I guess I could call the service phone no. for FTL but there's a chance they'll mess around with the FFN in the booking. Same as with using the welcome lounge as FTL. They could change the FFN to M&M so miles end up being credited there which I would find undesirable.
Mar 3, 20, 12:25 pm
#9
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
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Posts: 4,244
Originally Posted by Arnur
Pardon my ignorance, but what is KF*G? KF used to be the code for Blue1, if I remember correctly.
Mar 3, 20, 2:18 pm
#10
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: LH M&M, BA EC, DL SM
Posts: 3,712
Originally Posted by Arnur
I'm TK*G and in my experience, seat blocking on LH is hit-and-miss, whereas it used to work really well back when I was SEN. That is a benefit, which I really miss.
Additionally, my home airport did not let me use the priority *G security lane when the boarding pass said SK *S yesterday. Showing my SEN card didn‘t help.
Last edited by worldclubber; Mar 4, 20 at 12:26 am
Mar 4, 20, 2:48 am
#12
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: MUC
Programs: this and that
Posts: 1,266
Originally Posted by worldclubber
Additionally, my home airport did not let me use the priority *G security lane when the boarding pass said SK *S yesterday. Showing my SEN card didn‘t help.
Thx!
