New qualifying points system for status from 2021

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All the changes are listed on the official M&M Website: https://www.miles-and-more.com/de/en...ts/update.html

Starting 2021, the system for earning status changes. From then on, status points are earned by cabin and segment flown:

Regional flights will earn 5 points in Economy and Premium Economy, 10 points in First and Business class per segment
Intercontinental flights, ie flights between two IATA regions, will earn 15 points in Economy, 20 in Premium Economy, 50 in Business and 70 in First class segments

There will be two kinds of points : qualifying points (QP): earned with M&M integrated partners (LH/EW/LX/OS/LO/OU/LG/etc) and normal points : earned with other partners like the airlines in the Star Alliance. QP can be earned on LH Airrail train segments, but are capped at 40/120/250 per year for FTL/SEN/HON.

'Frequent Traveler' (FTL, equivalent to *S) status is given to members with 160 points (of which atleast 80 need to be QP), 'Senator' (SEN, *G) to members with 480 points (of which atleast 240 need to be QP). HON Circle (HON) is awarded after reaching 1500 QP in one year.

SEN will receive two evouchers upon qualification each year, HON 4 evouchers. There will be no rollover of QP, but for members who exceed the qualification QP level, M&M will grant the following benefits:
FTL: Mileage exchange for QP at 200 qualifying points
SEN: 2 eVoucher at 700 qualifying points; 15,000 award miles at 1,000 qualifying points; Frequent Traveller partner card at 1,300 qualifying points
HON:2 eVoucher at 1,800 qualifying points; 30,000 award miles at 2,100 qualifying points; 2 eVoucher at 2,400 qualifying points; Frequent Traveller partner card at 2,700 qualifying points; Senator partner card at 3,000 qualifying points

The system of status miles, HON Circle miles, select miles, and status star points will be abolished at the end of 2020. Any status earned prior to that will be honored. Any HON Circle miles earned in 2020 will be credited as QP in the ratio 200:1. Status star points earned till end of 2020 will converted to lifetime QP at a ration of 2:1.

Members with a lifetime QP of 7500 will be awarded FTL for their lifetime. If members reach 10000 lifetime QP and have been SEN for at least a cumulative 10 years they will be awarded lifetime SEN status.

Status is always valid for the year of qualification and one additional year. HON and SEN will have a 'soft landing' ie if they cannot requalify for status, they will get a year of SEN or FTL respectively.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:21 pm
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Exec bonus stays for award miles.

They clearly said that the total amount of hon/Sen/FTL stay the same, but there will be shift within.

Senator still gets 2 evoucher each year on (re) qualification, HON will get 3.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Lifetime will be rolled out on Jan 1 2021. Lifetime site will go live next year. Rule of thumb is 3 stars today will get FTL LT in 2021, 4-5 Stars will get LT SEN If they were 10 years senator in the past 25 years since M&M started.
Thanks info oliver2002,

I have been Sen for over 20 years, currently 3*, but have no idea of how many status miles I have collected over this period, nevertheless I think that I should be very very close to LT SEN, if not there.

Are we going to have a counter in our M&M account indication where we stand?

Thanks,
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:25 pm
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Select miles and selections go away. Status overachievers will be incentivised with extra evoucher, extra award miles, and partner nomination.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by more4less View Post
Thanks info oliver2002,

I have been Sen for over 20 years, currently 3*, but have no idea of how many status miles I have collected over this period, nevertheless I think that I should be very very close to LT SEN, if not there.

Are we going to have a counter in our M&M account indication where we stand?

Thanks,

Sometime next year they will launch a lifetime section on M&M.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:27 pm
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How about companion award?

(as Premium Award will disappear)
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No rollover status points.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:28 pm
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Great job Oliver2002! Respect! ^
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Originally Posted by worldclubber View Post
How about companion award?

(as Premium Award will disappear)

No change to any other senator bennies. Kids non expiring goes away because of mileage pooling.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:29 pm
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This appears to be 10x better than the United 1K qualification requirements.

If I have to shift to DK, then a much better option than trying to fly United - which is only decent on the BOM routes...

However, it is yet to be seen whether their is a revenue component - Oliver stated that it requires some spend per year, correct?
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Correction HON get 4 evouchers on qualification.
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy View Post
This appears to be 10x better than the United 1K qualification requirements.

If I have to shift to DK, then a much better option than trying to fly United - which is only decent on the BOM routes...

However, it is yet to be seen whether their is a revenue component - Oliver stated that it requires some spend per year, correct?

No spend requirements!!!!!
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Lifetime will be rolled out on Jan 1 2021. Lifetime site will go live next year. Rule of thumb is 3 stars today will get FTL LT in 2021, 4-5 Stars will get LT SEN If they were 10 years senator in the past 25 years since M&M started.
3 stars = 15000 status star points
Lifetime FTL = 7500 points
4 stars = 20000 status star points
Lifetime SEN = 10000 points

I'm sensing a pattern here. Those of us with less stars are likely to get lifetime points at a ratio of 2:1.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:31 pm
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Do all the bennies stay? SEN lounges as arrivals? Guest family under 18?

Any movement on ASR for Light fares?
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by hugolover View Post
Do all the bennies stay? SEN lounges as arrivals? Guest family under 18?

Any movement on ASR for Light fares?

No change. But dynamic awards are being analysed
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Old Nov 11, 19, 12:48 pm
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Any mention on dynamic award pricing?
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