New qualifying points system for status from 2021

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All the changes are listed on the official M&M Website: https://www.miles-and-more.com/de/en...ts/update.html

Starting 2021, the system for earning status changes. From then on, status points are earned by cabin and segment flown:

Regional flights will earn 5 points in Economy and Premium Economy, 10 points in First and Business class per segment
Intercontinental flights, ie flights between two IATA regions, will earn 15 points in Economy, 20 in Premium Economy, 50 in Business and 70 in First class segments

There will be two kinds of points : qualifying points (QP): earned with M&M integrated partners (LH/EW/LX/OS/LO/OU/LG/etc) and normal points : earned with other partners like the airlines in the Star Alliance. QP can be earned on LH Airrail train segments, but are capped at 40/120/250 per year for FTL/SEN/HON.

'Frequent Traveler' (FTL, equivalent to *S) status is given to members with 160 points (of which atleast 80 need to be QP), 'Senator' (SEN, *G) to members with 480 points (of which atleast 240 need to be QP). HON Circle (HON) is awarded after reaching 1500 QP in one year.

SEN will receive two evouchers upon qualification each year, HON 4 evouchers. There will be no rollover of QP, but for members who exceed the qualification QP level, M&M will grant the following benefits:
FTL: Mileage exchange for QP at 200 qualifying points
SEN: 2 eVoucher at 700 qualifying points; 15,000 award miles at 1,000 qualifying points; Frequent Traveller partner card at 1,300 qualifying points
HON:2 eVoucher at 1,800 qualifying points; 30,000 award miles at 2,100 qualifying points; 2 eVoucher at 2,400 qualifying points; Frequent Traveller partner card at 2,700 qualifying points; Senator partner card at 3,000 qualifying points

The system of status miles, HON Circle miles, select miles, and status star points will be abolished at the end of 2020. Any status earned prior to that will be honored. Any HON Circle miles earned in 2020 will be credited as QP in the ratio 200:1. Status star points earned till end of 2020 will converted to lifetime QP at a ration of 2:1.

Members with a lifetime QP of 7500 will be awarded FTL for their lifetime. If members reach 10000 lifetime QP and have been SEN for at least a cumulative 10 years they will be awarded lifetime SEN status.

Status is always valid for the year of qualification and one additional year. HON and SEN will have a 'soft landing' ie if they cannot requalify for status, they will get a year of SEN or FTL respectively.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
LH talk is Kont and Interkont. LH 400-799 counts as interkont, ie longhaul. The middle east and north African destinations (6xx) sort of fudge that ppicture as they are operated with A32S nowadays.
And what about for example SIN-KUL/DPS/MNL/TYO...?
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:11 am
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I'm sitting bored in the La Premiere lounge. Someone give me news on this please.
Is that possible?
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by sophialite View Post
I'm sitting bored in the La Premiere lounge. Someone give me news on this please.
There is kind of a live report over at VFT. I believe that you are smart enough to follow it even in German.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:18 am
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German magazine DER SPIEGEL reports, that status will be valid for one year plus the time to the end of the following February.

Qualification in February 2021 => status until February 2022
Qualification in March 2021 => status until February 2023

So status will be valid at least 12 months with a maximum of 23 months and 30 days.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by thbe View Post
German magazine DER SPIEGEL reports, that status will be valid for one year plus the time to the end of the following February.

Qualification in February 2021 => status until February 2022
Qualification in March 2021 => status until February 2023

So status will be valid at least 12 months with a maximum of 23 months and 30 days.
If I reach Status in December 2021, will it be Valid till Feb 2022 or Feb 2023?
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by LH600 View Post
If I reach Status in December 2021, will it be Valid till Feb 2022 or Feb 2023?
I imagine Feb 2023, otherwise status valid for only 2 months
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by f4freeJunior View Post
There is kind of a live report over at VFT. I believe that you are smart enough to follow it even in German.
Found it, and indeed can read it. Thank you sir.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:49 am
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Greetings from the talk. The points per segment is indeed as leaked this morning. No differentiation by revenue.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:51 am
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Kont is indeed same IATA region. So a United flight from SFO to NYC in F ist 10 points. But MUC FRA in K gives 5.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Kont is indeed same IATA region. So a United flight from SFO to NYC in F ist 10 points. But MUC FRA in K gives 5.
And there are no other distance distinctions. Awesome.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:54 am
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Is there a requirement to set foot on a LH Group aircraft or can we continue to earn status entirely on LOT?
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:54 am
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Lifetime will be rolled out on Jan 1 2021. Lifetime site will go live next year. Rule of thumb is 3 stars today will get FTL LT in 2021, 4-5 Stars will get LT SEN If they were 10 years senator in the past 25 years since M&M started.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by hugolover View Post
Is there a requirement to set foot on a LH Group aircraft or can we continue to earn status entirely on LOT?
Integrated M&M airlines including LO/LG/OU and EW/SN.
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:57 am
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And no discrimination for PL domestic?

Why don't you mention in front of them all that HON is now theoretically possible for 3000 EUR?

Let's see the reaction .
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Old Nov 11, 19, 11:59 am
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So what will become the new mileage run routes? Something like FRA-VIE-CAI in P? What would be the shortest Kont destinations, I suppose IST doesn't count, but what about TLV? RAK?
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