Demographics of LH passengers

Old Oct 18, 19, 7:30 am
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Demographics of LH passengers

Researching for an update on the number of FTL/SEN/HON for the HON qualification thread I noticed that LH doesn't publish those anymore, but the stats of passengers flying Lufthansa is rather interesting (e.g. 72% of pax in C/F are >40yrs):

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Old Oct 18, 19, 8:05 am
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Curious demographics. Only age? What about race, gender? Most pax I see are white middle-aged men (aka white privileged/mansplainers).

I'd imagine they'd be desperate to publish such data if they wanted to show how diverse they are. What about staff?
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This is a website giving demographics to attract advertisers, so the data is prepared/shown with that in mind. Some displays do show gender:


I don't think they can estimate race in such statistics? Imagine the backlash if a German company publishes customer race data?
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Old Oct 18, 19, 10:48 am
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It is bad that LH doesn't attract anymore the under forties generation in their premium cabins!

That' a bad sign that so many under forties businessmen are not happy with LH current business class and its layout of 2-2-2

Honestly, myself I am less enthusiastic to fly LH business class as in the past.
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Thanks oliver, really interesting stuff!
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Old Oct 18, 19, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer View Post
It is bad that LH doesn't attract anymore the under forties generation in their premium cabins!

That' a bad sign that so many under forties businessmen are not happy with LH current business class and its layout of 2-2-2
Isn't that a question of seniority and industry? With many companies moving to Frankfurt and/or Amsterdam, the train may be more convenient than flying.
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Old Oct 18, 19, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer View Post
It is bad that LH doesn't attract anymore the under forties generation in their premium cabins!.
Many under 40s are not yet at the top of their career and therefore can't afford the ever increasing prices of C/F. EU to US in premium cabins rates have nearly doubled from what they used to cost 2-4 years ago.
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Old Oct 18, 19, 2:46 pm
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Many under 40s are not yet at the top of their career and therefore can't afford the ever increasing prices of C/F. EU to US in premium cabins rates have nearly doubled from what they used to cost 2-4 years ago.
Really? Time to switch to BArb. Her DFS sales are never-ending.
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Old Oct 18, 19, 4:36 pm
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Many under 40s are not yet at the top of their career and therefore can't afford the ever increasing prices of C/F. EU to US in premium cabins rates have nearly doubled from what they used to cost 2-4 years ago.
I guess it is not just pricing. Lots of companies which used to fly C/F for almost all business travel removed premium travel for anyone but the Senior or Executive Management. And being in such a role usually means some decent amount of lifetime spend building a career... (or know the right people )
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Originally Posted by hugolover View Post
Most pax I see are white middle-aged men (aka white privileged/mansplainers).
Yes, all white men are overprivileged.

Pleas give me a break.
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Old Oct 18, 19, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
but the stats of passengers flying Lufthansa is rather interesting (e.g. 72% of pax in C/F are >40yrs):
Nothing really to see here, move along.

Income and achievement in professional life typically peak when people are in their 40s or early 50s. Wealth peaks later than income.

So, on the basis of fundamental facts about people's lifecycle, it is not surprising that most C/F flyers are between 40-59. They are most likely to be able to afford it out of their own pocket, they are also likely to be in their prime career-wise.
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer View Post
It is bad that LH doesn't attract anymore the under forties generation in their premium cabins!

That' a bad sign that so many under forties businessmen are not happy with LH current business class and its layout of 2-2-2

Honestly, myself I am less enthusiastic to fly LH business class as in the past.
I think you'll be hard pressed to find people under 40 in career positions that allow them not only fly business class, but also to pick and choose who to fly with. From all the companies I have worked with so far, only one even had intercontinental travel in C, but then you still couldn't quite pick and choose your carrier (unless you became very good in manipulating the corporate booking tool) and even that company was extremely stingy with approving such travel. I think I've seen only one such case in over a year I worked there, and even then it was only because the (over 40) big boss really really didn't want to go, so the under 40 small boss went instead.


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Yes, all white men are overprivileged.

Pleas give me a break.
Don't indulge hugolover too much. Always trying to stir something up.

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Nothing really to see here, move along.

Income and achievement in professional life typically peak when people are in their 40s or early 50s. Wealth peaks later than income.

So, on the basis of fundamental facts about people's lifecycle, it is not surprising that most C/F flyers are between 40-59. They are most likely to be able to afford it out of their own pocket, they are also likely to be in their prime career-wise.
Indeed indeed. Actually I think from the people in premium cabins in LH, in the under 40s (and particularly under 30s), a much larger proportion is flying for leisure rather than business. But then a large portion of those, I figure, don't quite pay for the trips, rather it being "family money" at play.
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Old Oct 19, 19, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk View Post
I think you'll be hard pressed to find people under 40 in career positions that allow them not only fly business class, but also to pick and choose who to fly with. From all the companies I have worked with so far, only one even had intercontinental travel in C, but then you still couldn't quite pick and choose your carrier (unless you became very good in manipulating the corporate booking tool) and even that company was extremely stingy with approving such travel. I think I've seen only one such case in over a year I worked there, and even then it was only because the (over 40) big boss really really didn't want to go, so the under 40 small boss went instead.




Don't indulge hugolover too much. Always trying to stir something up.



Indeed indeed. Actually I think from the people in premium cabins in LH, in the under 40s (and particularly under 30s), a much larger proportion is flying for leisure rather than business. But then a large portion of those, I figure, don't quite pay for the trips, rather it being "family money" at play.
There are more of us with Silicon Valley millions/billions traveling than you think. I certainly am not traveling with family money.
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