Significant changes in 2021 for Status (re-)qualification criteria
Nov 3, 2019, 7:29 pm
#136
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Nov 4, 2019, 2:26 am
#137
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, LX SEN, Marriott Titanium
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I've requalified for SEN this year and it's the first year of my two-year period. Under the current system it would mean I'm secured all the way to February 2023 and only need to requalify once in either 2021 or 2022. If they switch to a one-year period then that probably means I'd need to requalify in 2021 already and every year thereafter. In which case I'd say, screw you, I'm taking my money elsewhere. I've tolerated the constant enhancements to M&M mainly because I only need to plan around them once every two years. This might be the factor that finally sends me packing if it happens, and I doubt I'm the only one.
Nov 4, 2019, 2:44 am
#138
Join Date: Dec 2017
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I've requalified for SEN this year and it's the first year of my two-year period. Under the current system it would mean I'm secured all the way to February 2023 and only need to requalify once in either 2021 or 2022. If they switch to a one-year period then that probably means I'd need to requalify in 2021 already and every year thereafter. In which case I'd say, screw you, I'm taking my money elsewhere. I've tolerated the constant enhancements to M&M mainly because I only need to plan around them once every two years. This might be the factor that finally sends me packing if it happens, and I doubt I'm the only one.
Nov 4, 2019, 3:39 am
#139
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Nov 4, 2019, 3:51 am
#140
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I've requalified for SEN this year and it's the first year of my two-year period. Under the current system it would mean I'm secured all the way to February 2023 and only need to requalify once in either 2021 or 2022. If they switch to a one-year period then that probably means I'd need to requalify in 2021 already and every year thereafter. In which case I'd say, screw you, I'm taking my money elsewhere. I've tolerated the constant enhancements to M&M mainly because I only need to plan around them once every two years. This might be the factor that finally sends me packing if it happens, and I doubt I'm the only one.
Nov 4, 2019, 3:57 am
#141
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On the other hand A3 Gold is needed for benefits on OA flights.
And SQ PPS is needed for SQ double baggage allowance (rather than 20kg extra)
Of course an evil way of earning SEN is double-dipping on SQ, earning PPS value and crediting miles to M&M...
Signed: Juggler
Nov 4, 2019, 3:58 am
#142
Join Date: Apr 2005
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How about HON requalitifcation?
I end this year with 850k HON miles, and my qualification period ends on December 31st. After old rules I'd be extended till February 2022. And now?
I end this year with 850k HON miles, and my qualification period ends on December 31st. After old rules I'd be extended till February 2022. And now?
Nov 4, 2019, 4:42 am
#143
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So your status will be extended till Feb 2022.
Nov 4, 2019, 12:28 pm
#144
Join Date: Apr 2005
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As irony has it, my M&M page was updated just today: it confirms extension till Feb 2022, mentions the number of HON miles I have earned in 2019 (and explains that they are not relevant for extension), and six evouchers got added to my account.
So at least from that end I am "safe". Now let's see what next Monday brings. I managed this year to extend HON, earn Flying Blue ULTIMATE, and renew BA Gold. Not sure that will be possible again.HON is the one I am most attached to, as it provides the most and best benefits. And flying LX (which is my main airline) is not that much worse/better than AF (which is my other main airline).
Nov 5, 2019, 11:54 am
#145
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My SEN status was updated today (November 5th) and 2 vouchers appeared in my account. The SEN status has been extended until Feb 2022. I always manage to requalify within the first year of my status. Hence, I have already flights planned/booked for 2020 and hope I can requalify effectively during the next year under the current rules, which would extend the status until Feb 2024.
Should the new rules be announced and become effective in 2021, I understand I will face the issue of requalification (according to the new rules) in 2023 to maintain the status for 2024?
Should the new rules be announced and become effective in 2021, I understand I will face the issue of requalification (according to the new rules) in 2023 to maintain the status for 2024?
Nov 5, 2019, 1:05 pm
#147
Join Date: May 2001
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Mine extended also with an additional star which I thought I’m still 6 months away. Anyway, stars are useless for me ...
Nov 5, 2019, 1:55 pm
#149
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Oh, they’re useful. To spot the HONs who should be publicly challenged by their behaviour to staff in the WAW lounge.
Nov 5, 2019, 2:18 pm
#150
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My SEN status was updated today (November 5th) and 2 vouchers appeared in my account. The SEN status has been extended until Feb 2022. I always manage to requalify within the first year of my status. Hence, I have already flights planned/booked for 2020 and hope I can requalify effectively during the next year under the current rules, which would extend the status until Feb 2024.
Should the new rules be announced and become effective in 2021, I understand I will face the issue of requalification (according to the new rules) in 2023 to maintain the status for 2024?
Should the new rules be announced and become effective in 2021, I understand I will face the issue of requalification (according to the new rules) in 2023 to maintain the status for 2024?