change of aircraft type - stop over= crew implications
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change of aircraft type - stop over= crew implications
Todays 6am KRK-MUC was scheduled to be an A320. This flight uses the aircraft that came in on the LH1626 the previous evening, but with a crew change. The crew that start the day are, I believe, the crew that operated the 1622 that arrives 12:40.
At 22:32 last night the 1626 was changed from an A320 to an A321, however the crew that flew in would have been the A320 crew that operated the previous days 1622.
So how woud this work, did some poor crew have to deadhead out on the 1626 after midnight last night and then operate this flight back first thing this morning?
At 22:32 last night the 1626 was changed from an A320 to an A321, however the crew that flew in would have been the A320 crew that operated the previous days 1622.
So how woud this work, did some poor crew have to deadhead out on the 1626 after midnight last night and then operate this flight back first thing this morning?
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The same crew should be able to operate A320 and A321, the number of seats used would have to be reduced though as the A321 requires more FAs than the A320 at max capacity.
OT IIRC this is why the LH A321 have the fixed table in the first row middle seats: to ensure these seats can’t be used otherwise yet another FA would be required.
OT IIRC this is why the LH A321 have the fixed table in the first row middle seats: to ensure these seats can’t be used otherwise yet another FA would be required.
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Reminds me of a LH flight HKG-FRA back in the 80s, with a scheduled stop in DEL.
Due to fog in DEL the 747 was diverted to KHI. Apart from the obvious discomfort of the many Indian passengers, we were unable to continue as the LH crew in KHI were only certified for the DC10, which then operated the FRA-KHI route but not for the 747.
We were offered a bed for the night at the sole airport hotel which I remembered from a previous visit as being particularly unpleasant, and to continue to FRA the next day. Fortunately I was able to rebook onto Panam to Frankfurt leaving in a few hours.
Meanwhile my wife, wondering where I had got to, managed to get through to Lufthansa Brussels who told her that they had no idea where the flight from HKG was!!
It was only when I finally got to FRA and managed to call from a payphone (no mobiles in those days) that I was able to reassure her that I was fine.
The joys of travel back then....
Due to fog in DEL the 747 was diverted to KHI. Apart from the obvious discomfort of the many Indian passengers, we were unable to continue as the LH crew in KHI were only certified for the DC10, which then operated the FRA-KHI route but not for the 747.
We were offered a bed for the night at the sole airport hotel which I remembered from a previous visit as being particularly unpleasant, and to continue to FRA the next day. Fortunately I was able to rebook onto Panam to Frankfurt leaving in a few hours.
Meanwhile my wife, wondering where I had got to, managed to get through to Lufthansa Brussels who told her that they had no idea where the flight from HKG was!!
It was only when I finally got to FRA and managed to call from a payphone (no mobiles in those days) that I was able to reassure her that I was fine.
The joys of travel back then....
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The same crew should be able to operate A320 and A321, the number of seats used would have to be reduced though as the A321 requires more FAs than the A320 at max capacity.
OT IIRC this is why the LH A321 have the fixed table in the first row middle seats: to ensure these seats can’t be used otherwise yet another FA would be required.
OT IIRC this is why the LH A321 have the fixed table in the first row middle seats: to ensure these seats can’t be used otherwise yet another FA would be required.
By blocking the middle seats, LH‘s A321 are limited to precisely 200 seats. As 1 FA is needed for every 50 pax, the A321 can be operated by the same crew as the 168 seat A320.
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