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UFO FA Strike [at EW/4U/CL/SXD on 20OCT19, LH 7-8NOV19 & 4U 30DEC-1JAN20]
https://amp.dw.com/en/lufthansa-cabi...uly/a-49274768 should this happen, what would Lufthansa do? 1. refund money? 2. Book us on another airline? Flying business. Sfo/muc mid july for cruise. Would they be more likely to fly long routes with other personnel or would the whole thing be shut down leaving us on our own yo find flights? |
Originally Posted by oskidunker
(Post 31223443)
https://amp.dw.com/en/lufthansa-cabi...uly/a-49274768 should this happen, what would Lufthansa do? 1. refund money? 2. Book us on another airline? Flying business. Sfo/muc mid july for cruise. Would they be more likely to fly long routes with other personnel or would the whole thing be shut down leaving us on our own yo find flights? |
should this happen, what would Lufthansa do? 1. refund money? 2. Book us on another airline? Hence, you as passenger may choose between a full refund, a free reroute at the earliest possible time, a free reroute at an own preferred time (could be far in the future). Article 8 rights exists regardless of the cause of the cancellation or period of notification. |
Will they rebook in Business?
Originally Posted by warakorn
(Post 31225298)
EC261/2004 article 8 applies:
Hence, you as passenger may choose between a full refund, a free reroute at the earliest possible time, a free reroute at an own preferred time (could be far in the future). Article 8 rights exists regardless of the cause of the cancellation or period of notification. |
Originally Posted by worldclubber
(Post 31223500)
Unlikely the strike will really happen. If it does, they will rebook you. And with BA pilots looking at strikes over the same period it would be challenging in Europe |
Any tentative dates announced? Supposed to fly on July 2nd.
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Originally Posted by oskidunker
(Post 31227090)
Just want to be be careful they dont stick me on United in Coach if this happens.
Originally Posted by Redhat72
(Post 31228381)
Any tentative dates announced? Supposed to fly on July 2nd.
Anyhow, for once i can see LH has good chance they will stop the strike action before the courts. UFO (the union) unilateral canceled the last framework contract after some internal scandal and disputes where the whole leadership needed to resign. The new interim union leaders thought it would be a good idea to put Germanwings and LH under pressure now and took a bold move by terminating the current framework contract and then calling for strike action. Probably to win favors with the union base and get elected as leadership team when those elections are due. LH claims the current leadership team doesn’t have the authority to cancel contracts and renegotiate a deal. The union should get their act together and get back to normal formal process with setting up elections to nominate a new leadership, formulate demands for the next framework contract and then get back to the table to talk about it. I’m usually not a big fan of Lufthansa management (not a fan of unions either...) but in this case, at least according to the information I got, I would side with lufthansa. Strike for higher salary is not supposed to be a tool for a interim leadership to win over the union base. |
Stopping a strike via court?
This is difficult to achieve in Germany, since the right to strike is enshrined in the German Constitution (article 9). |
Originally Posted by warakorn
(Post 31231935)
Stopping a strike via court?
This is difficult to achieve in Germany, since the right to strike is enshrined in the German Constitution (article 9). as long as there is a valid collective bargaining agreement in place, a union cannot call for a strike - and any effort to do so would be stopped before labor court. UFO tried to navigate this by terminating the current agreement ahead of time. Which LH did not acknowledge due to a) the unclear organizational setup of the union and b) it is not quite clear if terminating the contract ahead of time as lawful in the first place. |
News (in German only):
https://www.airliners.de/ufo-lufthan...-oktober/52138 https://ufo-online.aero/images/theme..._Infoflyer.pdf Key message is that UFO plans to hold strikes with all LH group airlines. Details will be announced on Oct 14. |
UFO is a bit of a disarray after a few scandals this year. The FAs are now organised in three unions (UFO, verdi, IGL), UFO is trying to show strength. In Germany you can't strike unless the majority of union members vote to strike. Such a strike will take place 6 weeks after the vote. They can also call for flash strikes to gather support for the vote, but UFO needs the required support for that.
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I am a reader of posts, etc, but rarely post.
HOWEVER - in regards to this LH pending possible strike. We are on them later in October VCE - FRA. We then connect on to UA FRA DEN. Will LH give advance warning of the "FLASH STRIKES" or is it going to be a show up at the airport and 'surprise'?? Thanks for you advice! |
Originally Posted by IMWMN
(Post 31605329)
I am a reader of posts, etc, but rarely post.
HOWEVER - in regards to this LH pending possible strike. We are on them later in October VCE - FRA. We then connect on to UA FRA DEN. Will LH give advance warning of the "FLASH STRIKES" or is it going to be a show up at the airport and 'surprise'?? Thanks for you advice! |
Thanks! That really is all we can do! We will just monitor and see what happens.
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UFO will announce their next steps on Monday afternoon. It seems they will go for select 'warnstreik' activity to show that they still have a sizeable following. They are annoyed that LH is talking to verdi as the FA union too.
A website has been setup with details: https://www.ufo-online.aero/de/themen/lhconcern.html |
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