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Old Mar 27, 2019, 1:56 am
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Talking LH Group looks at buying A320 or B737 to replace CR9/A319

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-lu...-idUKKCN1R72A2

Lufthansa expects to make a decision on its narrow-body 737 or A320 purchases next year, Spohr said. The airline does not currently have 737 MAX planes in its fleet or on order. It is replacing Airbus A319 and Bombardier CRJ planes.
Nice time to be in the market...
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 1:58 am
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And lucky not to have to make the decision right now.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 3:22 am
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Likely to be some bargains around
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I frankly don't understand this.

The CRJ-900 they have is currently operated with 79-85 seats according to seat guru (depending on C load), which is way to small even for the A318 line (where no neo-configuration exists).
The A319 they currently operate has 126-132 seats (depending on C load), which could work well with the proposed load of the 737 Max 7, even though that model has not been well accepted in the market so far.

I wonder whether the LH CEO meant to say A220 instead of A320, as the A220 would offer between 110-150 seats (depending on configuration) and is also part of the LH group fleet with Swiss.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 9:15 am
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In other outlets it has also been reported that the E190-E2 is also in the race. The A220 and E190 make more sense as CR9/A319 replacements...
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There is a trend to move the "mainline/regional" (to use the US terminology) divide up in the airline business, including in LH Group itself (OS getting rid of dashes for example) and backlease lower capacity planes in.

So from that point of view, I can see that LH would get rid of even the A319 (LHC in turn getting rid of the CRJ? or god knows what will actually happen in that company) to backlease it from partners, like they already do with Dolomiti E-Jets for example.

Whether that is actually good business decision we can only speculate.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by SunshineStay

I wonder whether the LH CEO meant to say A220 instead of A320, as the A220 would offer between 110-150 seats (depending on configuration) and is also part of the LH group fleet with Swiss.
I agree it does not make sense, LX is very happy with the plane as well apparently. I love flying it it, one of the best washrooms for tall people of almost any plane!
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 11:38 am
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I agree it does not make sense, LX is very happy with the plane as well apparently. I love flying it it, one of the best washrooms for tall people of almost any plane!
Well, concerning "dispatch reliability" there is still room for improvement ...
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 11:59 am
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Kudos to getting rid of (some) CRs! ^
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 12:13 pm
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I agree it does not make sense, LX is very happy with the plane as well apparently. I love flying it it, one of the best washrooms for tall people of almost any plane!
Well, they still got the whale noise..

Airbus A220 'Whisperjet' is too loud, according to Zurich residents

https://www.gatechecked.com/zurich-r...swiss-a220-689
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 2:19 pm
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Surely if the A220-500 is developed it would be a near perfect fit for the A319.

There is also the A319 neo in the making.
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk
There is a trend to move the "mainline/regional" (to use the US terminology) divide up in the airline business, including in LH Group itself (OS getting rid of dashes for example) and backlease lower capacity planes in.
A couple of years ago they axed the contract with IQ... this was the exact same business model.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 2:39 pm
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Spohr has been making a bit of noise about this because LH has always been a very good Boeing customer. Probably wise to keep doors open given that 747-8 is over and the 777 order is balanced by the A350s, but I suspect Airbus will win the short haul order given the commitment top 320neos
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 2:52 pm
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Lufthansa has issued a clarification: the comment Spohr made was to express confidence in Boeing in general and that they will sort out the current issue eventually.
Also they stated that LH group is in the market for an aircraft to replace the CR9 and A319 group wide. Candidates are the CS/A220, A320, B737 and E190 series.
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Old Mar 28, 2019, 2:37 am
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^ Thanks oliver2002.
That makes much more sense. My guess would be that A320 above means the whole A320 series, which would include the A319Neo.
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