Protection when flying with separate tickets
Mar 11, 2019, 5:37 pm
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Protection when flying with separate tickets
Hi,
I'm flying BRU-FRA-BLR, with BRU-FRA and FRA-BLR on separate tickets. Both are LH and I've close to 3hrs transit time at FRA. If BRU-FRA flight is delayed beyond 3 hours, would LH book me on an alternative route for the FRA-BLR sector, free of cost as they should when on a single ticket? Or would I be deemed a 'no-show' for the FRA-BLR because of separate tickets? In the past, LH has tagged the bags all the way to the final destination even when I was on similar arrangement (separate tickets). Curious to know what happens for the bags in case of delays?
Thanks,
P14.
I'm flying BRU-FRA-BLR, with BRU-FRA and FRA-BLR on separate tickets. Both are LH and I've close to 3hrs transit time at FRA. If BRU-FRA flight is delayed beyond 3 hours, would LH book me on an alternative route for the FRA-BLR sector, free of cost as they should when on a single ticket? Or would I be deemed a 'no-show' for the FRA-BLR because of separate tickets? In the past, LH has tagged the bags all the way to the final destination even when I was on similar arrangement (separate tickets). Curious to know what happens for the bags in case of delays?
Thanks,
P14.
Mar 11, 2019, 5:41 pm
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Hi,
I'm flying BRU-FRA-BLR, with BRU-FRA and FRA-BLR on separate tickets. Both are LH and I've close to 3hrs transit time at FRA. If BRU-FRA flight is delayed beyond 3 hours, would LH book me on an alternative route for the FRA-BLR sector, free of cost as they should when on a single ticket? Or would I be deemed a 'no-show' for the FRA-BLR because of separate tickets? In the past, LH has tagged the bags all the way to the final destination even when I was on similar arrangement (separate tickets). Curious to know what happens for the bags in case of delays?
Thanks,
P14.
I'm flying BRU-FRA-BLR, with BRU-FRA and FRA-BLR on separate tickets. Both are LH and I've close to 3hrs transit time at FRA. If BRU-FRA flight is delayed beyond 3 hours, would LH book me on an alternative route for the FRA-BLR sector, free of cost as they should when on a single ticket? Or would I be deemed a 'no-show' for the FRA-BLR because of separate tickets? In the past, LH has tagged the bags all the way to the final destination even when I was on similar arrangement (separate tickets). Curious to know what happens for the bags in case of delays?
Thanks,
P14.
Mar 11, 2019, 6:12 pm
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Hi,
I'm flying BRU-FRA-BLR, with BRU-FRA and FRA-BLR on separate tickets. Both are LH and I've close to 3hrs transit time at FRA. If BRU-FRA flight is delayed beyond 3 hours, would LH book me on an alternative route for the FRA-BLR sector, free of cost as they should when on a single ticket? Or would I be deemed a 'no-show' for the FRA-BLR because of separate tickets? In the past, LH has tagged the bags all the way to the final destination even when I was on similar arrangement (separate tickets). Curious to know what happens for the bags in case of delays?
Thanks,
P14.
I'm flying BRU-FRA-BLR, with BRU-FRA and FRA-BLR on separate tickets. Both are LH and I've close to 3hrs transit time at FRA. If BRU-FRA flight is delayed beyond 3 hours, would LH book me on an alternative route for the FRA-BLR sector, free of cost as they should when on a single ticket? Or would I be deemed a 'no-show' for the FRA-BLR because of separate tickets? In the past, LH has tagged the bags all the way to the final destination even when I was on similar arrangement (separate tickets). Curious to know what happens for the bags in case of delays?
Thanks,
P14.
If they decide they close the gate, they'll close it, have your bags removed (once this decision is taken, it usually won't be reverted, even if you arrive by then at the gate..) and you're stuck in FRA. Unless your ticket is changable (and even then, most probably only against a fee) you'll be welcomed to buy a new ticket..
Mar 11, 2019, 7:39 pm
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This is not a connection. The bags won't matter. If OP no shows for his onward departure, his ticket will be cancelled and it will retain whatever value it retains under its fare rules. That is likely EUR 0. OP would then need to purchase a new ticket to BLR. Depending on the reason for the delay on his first flight, he might be due some delay compensation under EC 261/2004 and could ultimately use that to defray a small portion of his new ticket.
Mar 12, 2019, 3:18 am
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The way the altea DCS is set up at Lufthansa, if you check a bag the agent has to link your two tickets. So the BLR gate will see you are coming in from BRU and perhaps wait a bit. But no protection whatsoever, as LH didn't sell you a BRU-BLR ticket.
Mar 12, 2019, 8:20 am
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But, OP is not connecting.
There may well be policies which provide coverage for missed transfers between tickets, but I am not aware of them and they presumably cost a good deal more because missed connections are covered by the carrier causing the misconnect.
There may well be policies which provide coverage for missed transfers between tickets, but I am not aware of them and they presumably cost a good deal more because missed connections are covered by the carrier causing the misconnect.
Mar 12, 2019, 10:04 am
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hmm.. just to let you know that my travel insurance covers misconnections between flights as long as MCT has been complied with - there is no exception/exclusion for separate tickets (admittedly, I have never tested this coverage as it has never turned out necessary). It seems to be norm with the travel insurance coverage on the Danish market (without the insurance premium being excessively high).
Mar 12, 2019, 2:01 pm
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hmm.. just to let you know that my travel insurance covers misconnections between flights as long as MCT has been complied with - there is no exception/exclusion for separate tickets (admittedly, I have never tested this coverage as it has never turned out necessary). It seems to be norm with the travel insurance coverage on the Danish market (without the insurance premium being excessively high).
Minimum Connection Time or not doesn’t matter. I bet your insurance will say, that you are not connecting, so no coverage. On two tickets, you are not connecting. You are arriving at your destination and leaving again - or rather not.
Case closed.
Edit// btw, there are some travel insurances out there which cover missing the “connection” on separate tickets. They usually require 3 to 4 hours connection time. I had one of those a couple of years back and it worked quite ok. Only used it once and they paid with out questions.
Edit2// should you ask why the insurance company then put down some clause about compensation of missed connections? Well, since it doesn’t cost them anything as they - opposed to a lot of the normal traveling plebs - know that the airlines are on the hook for accommodating the misconnectiong passengers. But on the insurances advertising leaflet it reads great! Just last year had a call from a friend in distress at FRA who missed his connection. He was totally surprised to learn that he just needed to go to the LH desk and they will take care. He was 100% sure he was now screwed and will need to buy a new ticket...
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Mar 12, 2019, 11:13 pm
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My UK based travel insurance covers this specifically and it’s not expensive, however one must be able to demonstrate that you took reasonable precautions to be at the airport in time for the connection, my plan is always to be at the airport on the connection before normal checkin time would open.
Mar 13, 2019, 3:15 am
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Mar 13, 2019, 3:28 am
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hmm.. just to let you know that my travel insurance covers misconnections between flights as long as MCT has been complied with - there is no exception/exclusion for separate tickets (admittedly, I have never tested this coverage as it has never turned out necessary). It seems to be norm with the travel insurance coverage on the Danish market (without the insurance premium being excessively high).
It is still a connecting flight even if not on the same ticket, your still doing the same process as if it were one ticket but without any protection.
My UK based travel insurance covers this specifically and it’s not expensive, however one must be able to demonstrate that you took reasonable precautions to be at the airport in time for the connection, my plan is always to be at the airport on the connection before normal checkin time would open.
Let's you booked a cheap EasyJet flight to position yourself to your long haul departure airport where you planned on flying in SQ Suites, are you telling me that if you respected MCT but your U2 flight was late or cancelled, Aviva would pony up for a full fare F ticket on SQ at the last minute? I believe the Amex limit on the German card is something like EUR200 per person.
Mar 13, 2019, 3:52 am
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We've had this discussion before, and I have never seen a fully-satisfactory policy in this respect. Certainly Amex is far from true protection.
Let's you booked a cheap EasyJet flight to position yourself to your long haul departure airport where you planned on flying in SQ Suites, are you telling me that if you respected MCT but your U2 flight was late or cancelled, Aviva would pony up for a full fare F ticket on SQ at the last minute? I believe the Amex limit on the German card is something like EUR200 per person.
Let's you booked a cheap EasyJet flight to position yourself to your long haul departure airport where you planned on flying in SQ Suites, are you telling me that if you respected MCT but your U2 flight was late or cancelled, Aviva would pony up for a full fare F ticket on SQ at the last minute? I believe the Amex limit on the German card is something like EUR200 per person.
A full fare SQ F ticket is rebookable FOC anyway but you know that.