How much longer will LH fly the A380?

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Old Feb 20, 19, 10:23 am
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How much longer will LH fly the A380?

With the announcement of ending the A380 production, what's the outlook for this plane with LH?
How long will it keep flying them?
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...as-sales-slump

Will there maybe a fleet reduction by phasing out older models? SQ for one, was already returning its first A380s.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 10:52 am
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The 4 oldest LH A380 are from 2010. I guess they will at least get a 20 to 25 year duty cycle, so probably starting phasing them out not before 2030. The newest one is from 2015, which takes them into 2035 to 2040.

The first 777-9 should be delivered next summer but I think those will replace the oldest 744s first.
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I would assume LH will fly them for quite a while, as large aircraft fit their rather strong focus on two major hubs quite well. Depends also on the competition.
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A very long time before LH ditches the A380, they are not old, look how they are still using A346
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A very long time before LH ditches the A380, they are not old, look how they are still using A346
... and the 747-400 and the 340s.
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Originally Posted by Unterwegs View Post
... and the 747-400 and the 340s.
Exactly, I was more interested in the Aircraft that still has F
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According to the reports A380 is profitable when it flies full. So we'll probably see the A380s around on the popular rotes. I'm still amazed every time it takes off...
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Originally Posted by Unterwegs View Post
... and the 747-400 and the 340s.
Good observation!

Originally Posted by chris63 View Post
Exactly, I was more interested in the Aircraft that still has F
The ride in business class upstairs is very nice too. Hopefully, they will convert this big bird to the new business class as well.
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Originally Posted by cesco.g View Post
The ride in business class upstairs is very nice too. Hopefully, they will convert this big bird to the new business class as well.
LH has usually been pretty good with rolling out a homogeneous product to the whole fleet and I doubt it will be different in this case.
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Originally Posted by cesco.g View Post
The ride in business class upstairs is very nice too. Hopefully, they will convert this big bird to the new business class as well.
If 2 pax together itís cosy

It seems to take LH forever to retrofit, and actually First Class is considerably older than the current Business Class.
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It seems to take LH forever to retrofit, and actually First Class is considerably older than the current Business Class.
But at least they tend to eventually do it.
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The A380 is still part of the 2025+ fleet plan. The small subfleet is not a major issue as they formed an MRO alliance for spares and maintainence before the first one was delivered. The A346 was a flop for LH because the fuel cost vs B77W guarantee ran out after 10 years and the aircraft had a unique engine type that in small numbers is expensive to maintain and hold spares for.
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The A346 was a flop for LH ....
Maybe from a purely cost-oriented point of view. I very much like it and sometimes do go out of my to catch an A346 instead of a B777.
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But at least they tend to eventually do it.
I donít see whatís 5* about eventually

If they didnít do it they would hemorage pax
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Originally Posted by chris63 View Post
I donít see whatís 5* about eventually

If they didnít do it they would hemorage pax
I agree it could be faster.

But still better than some competitors that fly old generations of cabins until the planes get scrapped.
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