Question on Lufthansa FRA First Class Terminal
Nov 13, 2018, 8:52 pm
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Question on Lufthansa FRA First Class Terminal
I'm debating on booking a very long layover, and I suspect the answer is no, but I wanted to make sure -
my flight would be booked business class. CGN-MUC-FRA-ORD. I think all of the short flights are 2 class only (so no first), and the FRA-ORD is a United flight (so also 2 class).
....based on that, I wouldn't have access to the FRA 1st class terminal for a potential 10+ hour layover, right? I assume there's no way to 'trick' the system (I'd be willing to pay out of pocket) to get it?
my flight would be booked business class. CGN-MUC-FRA-ORD. I think all of the short flights are 2 class only (so no first), and the FRA-ORD is a United flight (so also 2 class).
....based on that, I wouldn't have access to the FRA 1st class terminal for a potential 10+ hour layover, right? I assume there's no way to 'trick' the system (I'd be willing to pay out of pocket) to get it?
Nov 13, 2018, 9:47 pm
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The First Class temrinal is only for Lufthansa first class passengers. Not for partner airlines like United. And I don’t think there’s an option to pay for entry but I may be wrong about that part.
Last edited by Merlinrnr; Nov 13, 2018 at 9:56 pm
Nov 14, 2018, 2:14 am
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I guess it was pretty clear from the beginning that you wouldn't have access, but I wonder two things:
1. With no first class in your itinerary, why the question, and
2. If you are starting in CGN, might it not be easier to take the train to FRA, rather than fly to Munich first?
1. With no first class in your itinerary, why the question, and
2. If you are starting in CGN, might it not be easier to take the train to FRA, rather than fly to Munich first?
Nov 14, 2018, 4:32 am
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the idea of the FCT is to offer a quiet and exclusive environment - if they’d let UA C in, it would be as exclusive as the Polaris lounges...
Nov 14, 2018, 7:38 am
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Well, the ways that come to mind to get into a LH F lounge without F ticket are:
- Miles and More HON Circle Members
- LH customers can get into the Munich/Frankfurt F Lounge if they hold an Amex Centurion. But that doesn't work in the Frankfurt First Terminal.
Nov 14, 2018, 9:29 am
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Right after I had written the comment, I thought to myself "well, it's unfortunate for her, but not for most of us who do get to use the F facilities when we fly F or through HON status" and hoped nobody would discover the imprecision in my wording. But you did. ^
Nov 14, 2018, 12:36 pm
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Good point.
Right after I had written the comment, I thought to myself "well, it's unfortunate for her, but not for most of us who do get to use the F facilities when we fly F or through HON status" and hoped nobody would discover the imprecision in my wording. But you did. ^
Right after I had written the comment, I thought to myself "well, it's unfortunate for her, but not for most of us who do get to use the F facilities when we fly F or through HON status" and hoped nobody would discover the imprecision in my wording. But you did. ^
Nov 14, 2018, 2:27 pm
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Nov 15, 2018, 10:06 pm
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Perhaps a better question might have been:
I need to get from CGN to ORD on (early) 12/16. I can leave any time on saturday (12/15), but I'm really looking to get on to the 8:30 FRA-ORD flight.
i'm also chasing miles, and unfortunately, taking the train from CGN to FRA will leave me ~800 miles short. (AAARGH)
All the flight combos my corporate travel agency searches are coming up with leave me with a 12 hour layover in FRA, which I'm considering (i'm even considering it without any first class terminal option, but if I could finagle flights, that's probably my best option...) so if any of the flight gurus could suggest a better itinerary where I could potentially pay OOP from business to a first class upgrade, I'd appreciate it.)
Nov 17, 2018, 12:19 pm
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Sorry folks, didn't mean to overstep - I assumed that this was the case. (That the answer is there is NO way...) (Mostly just slightly annoyed that UA won't sell F, even when 95% of the route is still flying 3 class planes)
Perhaps a better question might have been:
I need to get from CGN to ORD on (early) 12/16. I can leave any time on saturday (12/15), but I'm really looking to get on to the 8:30 FRA-ORD flight.
i'm also chasing miles, and unfortunately, taking the train from CGN to FRA will leave me ~800 miles short. (AAARGH)
All the flight combos my corporate travel agency searches are coming up with leave me with a 12 hour layover in FRA, which I'm considering (i'm even considering it without any first class terminal option, but if I could finagle flights, that's probably my best option...) so if any of the flight gurus could suggest a better itinerary where I could potentially pay OOP from business to a first class upgrade, I'd appreciate it.)
Perhaps a better question might have been:
I need to get from CGN to ORD on (early) 12/16. I can leave any time on saturday (12/15), but I'm really looking to get on to the 8:30 FRA-ORD flight.
i'm also chasing miles, and unfortunately, taking the train from CGN to FRA will leave me ~800 miles short. (AAARGH)
All the flight combos my corporate travel agency searches are coming up with leave me with a 12 hour layover in FRA, which I'm considering (i'm even considering it without any first class terminal option, but if I could finagle flights, that's probably my best option...) so if any of the flight gurus could suggest a better itinerary where I could potentially pay OOP from business to a first class upgrade, I'd appreciate it.)
Nov 18, 2018, 8:38 am
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Nov 19, 2018, 3:48 am
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Would that be taking a train as a train, or taking a train as a part of the ticket? I'm not sure if AirRail is available from Cologne, but mostly the AirRail trains act like domestic flights mileagewise, which might work for you.