777 might feature first class...
Dec 7, 2018, 2:34 am
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Dec 7, 2018, 3:47 am
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In the same airlineratings interview Carsten Spohr also mentions the possibility of ordering B787s instead of additional A350s for the Group.
“The Boeing 787 would be an alternative to ordering more A350s, for which we still have options. ... Both the A350 as well as the 787 are very well suited for thinner routes from our mega hubs, but also for our smaller hubs. ... We would not operate A350s and 787s side by side at the same hub, but possibly both aircraft at different hubs ... The decision on if we will order further A350s or 787s for the first time will be taken in the coming months.”
https://www.airlineratings.com/news/...ls-777x-plans/
“The Boeing 787 would be an alternative to ordering more A350s, for which we still have options. ... Both the A350 as well as the 787 are very well suited for thinner routes from our mega hubs, but also for our smaller hubs. ... We would not operate A350s and 787s side by side at the same hub, but possibly both aircraft at different hubs ... The decision on if we will order further A350s or 787s for the first time will be taken in the coming months.”
https://www.airlineratings.com/news/...ls-777x-plans/
Dec 7, 2018, 10:32 am
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Dec 7, 2018, 10:44 am
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In the same airlineratings interview Carsten Spohr also mentions the possibility of ordering B787s instead of additional A350s for the Group.
“The Boeing 787 would be an alternative to ordering more A350s, for which we still have options. ... Both the A350 as well as the 787 are very well suited for thinner routes from our mega hubs, but also for our smaller hubs. ... We would not operate A350s and 787s side by side at the same hub, but possibly both aircraft at different hubs ... The decision on if we will order further A350s or 787s for the first time will be taken in the coming months.”
“The Boeing 787 would be an alternative to ordering more A350s, for which we still have options. ... Both the A350 as well as the 787 are very well suited for thinner routes from our mega hubs, but also for our smaller hubs. ... We would not operate A350s and 787s side by side at the same hub, but possibly both aircraft at different hubs ... The decision on if we will order further A350s or 787s for the first time will be taken in the coming months.”
Dec 7, 2018, 11:45 am
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Like any good business man would do. Even if they are sticking with A350, this will put some pressure on Airbus negotiators.
Dec 7, 2018, 3:33 pm
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Dec 7, 2018, 8:31 pm
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Dec 8, 2018, 3:14 am
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I don't think much needs to be done to make F more competitive in the current market. In its current form it's already superior to any other European carriers except Swiss and AF. LH will never have suites, so the comparable F product on SQ/EK/Cathay isn't that much superior either. Just make the screens bigger (my new iPad Pro screen is basically the same size now, which either says something about LH F's IFE or my iPad, not sure), add in a bit more tech features, add a little bit more privacy and just refresh the upholstery. The seat is otherwise perfect for sleeping on, in my experience.
I love the LX 77W first class. It's just the perfect experience, and I don't really have any desire to fly in suites. The only reason I sometimes do LH instead is the slightly better and more consistent ground support. Since I connect a lot in FRA, rather than originate, the FCT doesn't really do much for me unless I go out of my way to go there, which isn't a good use of my time. FCL B is basically the same experience w/o feeling like you're in a separate terminal. That lack of added exclusivity might make smelling your own farts a little less appetizing. I don't know.
I love the LX 77W first class. It's just the perfect experience, and I don't really have any desire to fly in suites. The only reason I sometimes do LH instead is the slightly better and more consistent ground support. Since I connect a lot in FRA, rather than originate, the FCT doesn't really do much for me unless I go out of my way to go there, which isn't a good use of my time. FCL B is basically the same experience w/o feeling like you're in a separate terminal. That lack of added exclusivity might make smelling your own farts a little less appetizing. I don't know.
Dec 8, 2018, 6:47 am
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LH F superior to any other European carriers except SWISS and AF? That is a long way of saying it is better than BA... I would guess they are more ambitious than that.
Dec 8, 2018, 12:27 pm
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I would disagree with you on this one. If I am looking at e.g. BA - 14 seats in a 747 squeezed. I personally like the current FCL seat in LH as well as LX. For me the interesting question would be if the 777X will come with 4 or 8 FCL seats.
Dec 8, 2018, 8:14 pm
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LH F IFE is old with a now small screen, it is showing its age & the least private F of the EU carriers, LX F being much newer is excellent.
Dec 8, 2018, 8:36 pm
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