How Does Lufthansa Fill So Many First Class Seats?
Most of their longhaul fleet has 8-12 seats in First, including A330, A340-600, A380, and 747-8 aircraft. That’s hundreds of seats per day. Are there really enough wealthy Germans (or Europeans willing to transit in Frankfurt/Munich) to support this capacity? |
Number of aircraft with F-seats were reduced dramatically in the last years, as
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There are plenty of wealthy Germans and plenty of corporate contracts that allow senior executives to fly F. And many wealthy others who transit in Germany. |
Also keep in mind that there are not many airlines with F. Their product is pretty good. Especially across the atlantic your choices are limited. LX, AF and SQ (one flight) are also good, BA F is more like business class. AA is subpar. LH does not upgrade freely and the cabin oftehn is sold out.
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What they don’t sell go in mileage awards & upgrades using miles, vouchers. |
well, they do not aim to fill up their F cabin at any price.... So they do not always fill them up!
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You can sometimes get last minute award seats and I mean T-72 so not much good for planning but if you're flexible they are excellent value. In retirement I can be flexible!
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It's also very reasonably priced in my opinion. I'm flying with them in 1st for £2800 return to Singapore from Bristol via Frankfurt, plus I get a chauffeur drive from home to Bristol. A pretty good deal I'd say.
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On TATL routes, UA has or is eliminating its F product and replacing it with a single J cabin (Polaris). As a JV product, those who would have booked UA F are pushed to LH. In a JV revenue-sharing model, it does not matter to LH or UA, but the service is operated by UA.
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Originally Posted by trb10
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It's also very reasonably priced in my opinion. I'm flying with them in 1st for £2800 return to Singapore from Bristol via Frankfurt, plus I get a chauffeur drive from home to Bristol. A pretty good deal I'd say.
Not many A fares around like that. |
Originally Posted by LondonElite
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And many wealthy others who transit in Germany.
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The marginal cost of Lufthansa F over J is relatively low. For example, on some dates in October, a SFO-FRA round trip is ~$7600 if F and ~$5900 in J.
My company allows us to purchase discount F as long as it is cheaper than full J. There are a non-negligible number of companies with similar policies, so Lufthansa's F cabins |
I don't believe Lufthansa employees upgrade often because they are charged income tax on the fare difference.
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Originally Posted by 18wheeler_vanrekt
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Most of their longhaul fleet has 8-12 seats in First, including A330, A340-600, A380, and 747-8 aircraft. That’s hundreds of seats per day. Are there really enough wealthy Germans (or Europeans willing to transit in Frankfurt/Munich) to support this capacity? And it has already been pointed out that LH planes feature 8 First Class seats -- if they are equipped with First Class seats in the first place. HTB. |
Originally Posted by 18wheeler_vanrekt
(Post 30088328)
Most of their longhaul fleet has 8-12 seats in First, including A330, A340-600, A380, and 747-8 aircraft. That’s hundreds of seats per day. Are there really enough wealthy Germans (or Europeans willing to transit in Frankfurt/Munich) to support this capacity? |
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