marcoos

One important difference is that Y+ pax need to pay for lounge access (unless they're FTLs or *Gold).

I flew in Y+ in 2017 twice; one time TLL-WAW, and another time WAW-ARN, both times on a Nordica-operated CRJ9. I'm pretty sure there was a curtain, but may remember it wrongly. LOT's own Embraers, Q400s and older 737s do have it for sure, and it always divides C and Y+ from plain Y.

Food-wise, I didn't see any difference from what the C pax were served (for WAW-TLL I was in C and the food was exactly the same), except C pax getting the food unwrapped, and me in Y+ needing to remove the plastic covers from a few items. Drink offer might have been different, but I didn't care about that anyway (it's usually tomato juice for me). Quality-wise, it's no worse from Lufthansa's C food, and sometimes better.

So, as I said, whenever the price is reasonable, it's great. On the other hand, every time I see that it's 85%+ of the C price, I personally prefer paying much less and getting an exit row seat in Y and, if I'm hungry, buying the 20 zł sandwich from LOT Sky Bar (though, of course, FTL gets me priority check-in, fast track security and WAW lounge access even in plain economy, so things may differ for non-status pax who don't have that).

iLied

iLied

Agneisse

AlicorporateUK

hugolover

20zł for a sandwich? Those are BArbara’s Brexiteer M&S BOB prices! It’s 12zł, thankfully. And very good they are too. I tend to buy one of those Do&Co sandwiches.

The porridge for 6zł is very reasonable on the morning flights. Like that morning KSC flight which doesn’t have much loaded.

mmff

Sorry, I thought we were discussing Y+ in long-haul aircraft, I did not even know they sold this on short-haul services. I don't think domestic European C is worth the cost, let alone Y+.

marcoos

Whenever there actually is a curtain, it's always between C/Y+ and Y.

N1003U

...and let us not forget the C customers generally receive a linen tray cloth upon which the delectable catering is presented, while those of us in Y+ have to suffer without.

There are some small benefits to short-haul Y+, such as C catering, faster boarding, and in case of a bus gate in WAW, you will be invited to pile into a dedicated mini-bus for C and Y+ pax, which arrives at the terminal slightly faster.

For a dedicated short-haul product, I do not personally see huge bundles of value in LO Y+. However, as a connector to/from a long-haul (for little to no extra cost), it is obvious to me that LO is attempting to make the Y+ product at least optically a tick better than regular Y. In addition to the improved catering, at least for my 50+ body, the extra few cm of shoulder room, dedicated armrest, extra legroom and seatback recline, make a big difference. The catering long-haul in Y+ is generally the same as in C, except it is all served together on one tray, which for me is a bonus anyway, especially on the overnight flights. Also, for those who at least pretend to do work on the road (or want to catch up on the latest videos or whatever on a computer/tablet, smart phone), the dedicated power supply in the Y+ seats I find useful and is up to the task of supplying even an 85W Apple brick without dying.

I have been plying the ORD/WAW/FRA route in a 75/25 mix of Y+ and C now for about 14 months (I did have one return in regular Y, for comparison), and despite LO's more-than-occasional operational "challenges" I find the Y+ service generally worth the up-price.

LO for whatever reason often prices very aggressively ex-DACH to North America, and in my case, the price difference is enough to entice me to sacrifice a few hours of travel time and the hazards of a transfer in WAW. To see what I mean, pick a few random dates on the FRA/ORD route and compare pricing between LO and the direct LH/UA monopoly alternative, and one will note the price difference can be significant.

(and when things turn very bad in WAW, I find the Marriott properties directly on the airport to be reasonably priced, clean, and well-enough appointed )

AlicorporateUK

On a number of 'via WAW' routes (at least those I used to fly more often e.g. XXX-WAW-GDN/BEG/ZAG, to mention a few), Y+ but also C was, bizarrely enough, often cheaper than Y (a few weeks ago I got a LHR-WAW-GDN return in C for 'just' ~400 GBP when Y was well over 600...).

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iLied

mmff

Yes, I meant that domestic C on its own is typically a waste, especially if you always have lounge access and can use the priority lanes at security and boarding due to your status. I also don't say no to the front rows when I'm connecting to/from long-haul flights.

If this is the case, I'm all for buying C or Y+ even for short-haul routes within Europe. I would expect this to happen only occasionally and for fares with different degrees of flexibility (e.g. P vs Y) but I'm not too familiar with LO's pricing.

N1003U

Just to follow up (data point on EU claim processing time):

I just received today a confirmation today from LO that they have reviewed my EU261 claim (from a flight on 14AUG18, initial claim submitted 14SEP18) and they will, in fact, pay compensation. I have to fill out yet another form (with bank information), and LO is saying it may take another 4 weeks, but I now have written confirmation that the payment is coming.

Lack

Often enough, I've seen ex-PL Lufty pricing cheaper in C (well P) then what FR charged for their cheapest option. And a very small delta between Y and C prices.
Travel policies to blame I recon.

cas_de