Whats up with LH F Award to NA destinations

Old Mar 26, 18, 10:09 am
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Whats up with LH F Award to NA destinations

Hi all, I am trying to book an F award from EU to NA for the last couple of weeks. Mainly interested in FRA-ORD/IAH in mid-August. Surprisingly, I am unable to find any availability from mid-April onwards to most NA destinations with F (BOS, IAH, ORD, LAX, or SEA). I am FTL. Wondering what's up with that? Is LH now blocking F space to 14-days out to own flyers as well? I know FTL do not get SEN award space but this is ridiculous. I remember as FTL I could see space even a year out of FRA to these destinations. Only space I see now in F is the UA flights, C award is available as normal. Anyone have any insight on what's up with that?
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Old Mar 26, 18, 11:36 am
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More and more destinations loose F - therefore less award seats
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Old Mar 27, 18, 9:10 pm
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I can't speak for Frankfurt, but I have been seeing lots of availability to and from Munich to Los Angeles on their A380 (within 14 days).

Frankfurt seems to have dried up. . . don't know why...
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Old Mar 28, 18, 1:43 am
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There have also been a lot of F sales for summer.
How is the booking situation on the flights you are looking at?
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Old Mar 29, 18, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Ordfly View Post
Hi all, I am trying to book an F award from EU to NA for the last couple of weeks. Mainly interested in FRA-ORD/IAH in mid-August. Surprisingly, I am unable to find any availability from mid-April onwards to most NA destinations with F (BOS, IAH, ORD, LAX, or SEA). I am FTL. Wondering what's up with that? Is LH now blocking F space to 14-days out to own flyers as well? I know FTL do not get SEN award space but this is ridiculous. I remember as FTL I could see space even a year out of FRA to these destinations. Only space I see now in F is the UA flights, C award is available as normal. Anyone have any insight on what's up with that?

I thought United announced there will be no more international first class effective May 1, 2018.

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Old Mar 30, 18, 1:35 am
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Donít even bother with IAH, itís usually sold out (at least at the moment - Iíve been watching) in paid F.

LAX is a funny one, they hate releasing award space (sometimes available on Tuesdays) and often donít even sell A class, even though half the cabin inevitably ends up being upgraded.

SEA isnít served by F anymore. SFO is almost as hard to get as LAX.

Your best option is ORD. Served multiple times a day by both LH and LX as itís a hub, so thereís arguably oversupply in F. JFK too, but thatís so far from the west coast you may as well not bother.

DFW was an F award goldmine but from memory they no longer serve it with F.

Check LAX on Tuesdays, particularly ex-MUC and see how you go!
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Old Jul 18, 18, 12:24 am
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Am I the only one who thinks that LH F award availability is getting from bad to worse (especially to the US)?
I've been able to snag two seats in F every summer for years (LA, SFO, DFW, etc) but this year I haven't found a single seat in the summer months to any US destination.
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Old Jul 18, 18, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by JohnRain View Post
Am I the only one who thinks that LH F award availability is getting from bad to worse (especially to the US)?
I've been able to snag two seats in F every summer for years (LA, SFO, DFW, etc) but this year I haven't found a single seat in the summer months to any US destination.
It is definitely much harder but I didn't had problems booking F for two to NYC, BOS and ORD this summer again with some flexibility.... as I'm booking through EuroBonus I need to wait for the very last minute (T-14 days). What works pretty well for me is to book ex-HAM (and for me to add a CPH-HAM segment) as a lot of the F awards were married segments like HAM-US-HAM while e.g. the MUC or FRA to US segment wasn't bookable on its own.
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Old Jul 18, 18, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by JohnRain View Post
Am I the only one who thinks that LH F award availability is getting from bad to worse (especially to the US)?
I've been able to snag two seats in F every summer for years (LA, SFO, DFW, etc) but this year I haven't found a single seat in the summer months to any US destination.
Yeah, itís quite poor. Very disappointing that its not only true for partner awards, but also for M&M members. While there is some availability out there, its rarely for 2 seats and generally for mid-week travel - not very useful for leisure.
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Old Jul 18, 18, 7:53 pm
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Yeah its pretty bad.....I ended up booking ORD-FRA F but using Lifemiles and not M&M a couple of months ago..and booked KLM for the return as I could not find any F award ex-EU.
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