M&M going revenue based [for award miles on LH group tickets] 12MAR2018
Dec 11, 2017, 1:01 pm
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So why do they need to reward customers not having any competitions?
Reducing the balance sheet is the other shoe - that's increasing the redemption rates. This is just reducing their operating costs, having to budget less for the miles awarded from flights purchased after 12.03.18.
Dec 11, 2017, 1:26 pm
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Here is this forum we typically have members who have a choice. However a big chunk of the LH revenue comes from captive clients: People working for large corporates who have a contract with the LH group. They will always be ticketed on LH group stock because that is what the contract says and the corporate travel agency does.
Dec 11, 2017, 2:26 pm
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Here is this forum we typically have members who have a choice. However a big chunk of the LH revenue comes from captive clients: People working for large corporates who have a contract with the LH group. They will always be ticketed on LH group stock because that is what the contract says and the corporate travel agency does.
I think most large corporations have "best price" policies, at least for long haul .
Dec 11, 2017, 2:59 pm
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Has anybody figured out how this will work with a mixed itinerary? I have a ticket booked on LH.com with one out of five segments operated by a non-LH Group airline (not a codeshare).
The flights (all within Europe) will be during the holiday period when Y tickets would be relatively more expensive and C tickets are not much more than Y. Two outbound flights are booked into Z, while inbound flights are a mixture of C and D.
The whole trip should give me 10,126 status/award miles including executive bonus which is quite a bargain. Under the new system I will only get 3,292 miles if all flights are on LH Group airlines - the reason why I'm curious to know what will happen if the same ticket was bought after 12.3.18.
The flights (all within Europe) will be during the holiday period when Y tickets would be relatively more expensive and C tickets are not much more than Y. Two outbound flights are booked into Z, while inbound flights are a mixture of C and D.
The whole trip should give me 10,126 status/award miles including executive bonus which is quite a bargain. Under the new system I will only get 3,292 miles if all flights are on LH Group airlines - the reason why I'm curious to know what will happen if the same ticket was bought after 12.3.18.
Dec 11, 2017, 3:06 pm
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I imagine same as pure blood LH itineraries (and then with what UA and others a have been doing across the pond). The revenue being split between segments in accordance with LH logic.
Dec 11, 2017, 3:08 pm
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Beyond that, I expect that the company will prorate the revenue for the non-LH Group operated segment out of the earnings and that segment will earn by distance.
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Dec 11, 2017, 3:19 pm
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Fare = 327.00 GBP
YQ = 152.40 GBP
YQ = 2.70 GBP
Total carrier imposed charges = 482.10 GBP or 548.60 EUR
Dec 11, 2017, 3:25 pm
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Dec 11, 2017, 3:45 pm
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Beyond that, I expect that the company will prorate the revenue for the non-LH Group operated segment out of the earnings and that segment will earn by distance.
based on the below FAQ that could be the way to address NewbieRunner's mixed itinerary ticket.
How are miles credited?
Miles will continue to be credited to you after each flight. For this purpose, the ticket price is allocated to the individual flight segments. Once you have completed your entire journey, the total miles for the individual flight segments are thus equivalent to the mileage amount for the entire ticket.
Miles will continue to be credited to you after each flight. For this purpose, the ticket price is allocated to the individual flight segments. Once you have completed your entire journey, the total miles for the individual flight segments are thus equivalent to the mileage amount for the entire ticket.
Dec 11, 2017, 7:54 pm
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Dec 11, 2017, 11:39 pm
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Dec 12, 2017, 12:11 am
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Dec 12, 2017, 1:19 am
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One more example where things will get worse. I have booked a ticket MUC LH HND LH MUC in E class (for travel in January). This ticket will yield 20532 miles according to the old rules, after march the same ticket (€1820 base fare + €360 YQ = €2180) will result in 13080 miles, a nice 36% devaluation. I'd be highly surprised if they adjust the prices for award flights accordingly.
To be fair something like that had to be expected, but in an ideal world (I am a dreamer) I would have either included some sort of cabin class factor, like PE = ((base fare + YQ)*1.25)* status factor); *1.5 for business class and *2 for first, or even a single factor for all cabins expect for economy.
To be fair something like that had to be expected, but in an ideal world (I am a dreamer) I would have either included some sort of cabin class factor, like PE = ((base fare + YQ)*1.25)* status factor); *1.5 for business class and *2 for first, or even a single factor for all cabins expect for economy.